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I'm on the fence on this one...

I'll be experimenting with teaching intro Java using VAJ sometime soon.
My thoughts on it are basically:

1) VAJ helps put off the "where do I put the files" issue until export
   (Where I'll explain all the compiling outside VAJ issues)

2) IMHO, Issues such as layout design and _use_ of components/beans are
far more important than actually typing

     Button b = new Button("Ok");
     Panel p = new Panel(new FlowLayout());
     p.add(b);

   I'd go over the code so people would know what to look for, but
wouldn't make them type it in exercises

3) I wouldn't be using connections in the VCE, just the layout
design/bean customization
   (I'd demo the advanced features, but I'd want them to write
connection code)

If somone can use the code gens to get a good head start on the language
concepts, that's a major benefit to teaching the language. There's a lot
to be said for "getting a program working"

I still need to think ont a bit more, but I'm really leaning this way...

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Johan Compagner <joco@wxs.nl> wrote in message
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> > That is where learning Java will come into play.  The
> > VCE automates alot of the really tedious parts of creating GUI's,
but
> > you still need to know alot about Java to use it effectively.
>
> That's why you mustn't use a IDE for learning a language
> You can use VAJ as a texteditor but don't use the VCE for learning
> java.
>
> greetings
> Johan compagner
>
>
>