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Re: Does Morton Goldmacher work for iStar? was: Re: iStar memo:

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From: Richard J. Sexton
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 00:00
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In article <4t0576$qu@news.interlog.com>,
Morton Goldmacher <alchemy@interlog.com> wrote:
>richard@news.vrx.net (Richard J. Sexton) wrote:
>
>>Directly or indirectly ? Just curious.
>
>For the record, I don't work for any internet service provider.  The
>opinions I've expressed in this thread have not always been consistant
>with my personal values, but I've posted them because they illuminate
>the current state of the law.  If I had been retained by iSTAR I would
>have advised the removal of the suspect newsgroups to minimize their
>exposure to criminal prosecution.  On the other hand, if I were in
>iSTAR's shoes I may not have removed the groups at all.

Fair enough. The dumbest thing they did was to put in writing
that they shouldnt tell their customers. This is consistant with
the general disdain they seem to regard users ofthe their
fine (sic) system.

Of course anybody is free to drop and pick up whatever newsgroups
they want, but in drawing attention to a situation thats been
extant for years and years, they're forcing the issue in a
reactive and very unpleasant way.

The *proper* way to drop them is to just drop them, not
tell anybody and if somebody notices (and yeah, like they're
gonna complain they can't get alt.sex.with.kids in *writing*)
is to just say: "uh, we dunno, maybe it's out upstream feed..."

Blaming iStar because they pass a picture of a guy blowing a horse
is like suing Canada Post because they deliver magazines in
brown paper wrappings. The ponit being, you can never tell
whats in a news article, and at god-knows-how-many gigs
a day, it's impossible to tell whats in them any more.

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From: richard@news.vrx.net (Richard J. Sexton)
Subject: Re: Does Morton Goldmacher work for iStar? was: Re: iStar memo:
Date: 1996/07/22
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