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Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups

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From: Bob Daniel
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 00:00
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In article <4rs9m5$rf9@milo.vcn.bc.ca>, lalee@vcn.bc.ca (Lawrence Lee) wrote:
> 
> I would ask you Robert why Usenet newsgroups are any more illegal than 
> the content that can be achieved via. gopher, FTP, IRC, telnet, WWW... 
> 

It could be argued that the distinction is one
of STORAGE (on news server disks) vs. TRANSMISSION of the
nasty ones-and-zeros in question.

This of course inspires the argument that even TRANSMISSION
via the web etc. involves SOME storage on iStars property, however transient.
So then it becomes a question of HOW LONG is it stored.

The other angle is this matter of foreknowledge.  Istar can't reasonably
be expected to monitor all web traffic, email etc. for illegal content.
(And don't even SUGGEST it!!!)(grin)   But they CAN be resonably sure
that there will always be SOME "illegal content"  in SOME of these newsgroups.

This really SHOULD be argued in court, and on that basis I would like
to see the full feed reinstated.

-- 
Bob Daniel              rgd@inforamp.net
Toronto, Canada         http://www.inforamp.net/~rgd
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From: rgd@inforamp.net (Bob Daniel)
Subject: Re: iStar memo:  don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
Date: 1996/07/08
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