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Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups

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From: Scott Barker
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 00:00
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On Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:37:26 GMT, Jim Manson (jmanso19@skypoint.com) wrote:
> You have already admitted that removing newsgroups in some cases
> is a valid defense to the problem.

Actually, I didn't "admit" any such thing. All I admitted was that it's
iSTAR's right to do what they please with their servers.

> Therefore iStar does a risk analysis of the law, their newsgroups,
> and current political climates. They decide to remove some newsgroups.

Exactly, couldn't have put it better. It was a politically motivated move.

> It would seem that their restraint is in your favor since you oppose
> the removal in the first place.

Actually, I oppose two things:

1) censorship of any kind
2) iSTAR's feeble attempt to justifiy a political move behind "legal"
   motivations.

> You have now decided that they should have removed more newsgroups
> if they were being sincere, not having any access to the facts or
> opinions that iStar had. You have been claiming all along that
> removing the newsgroups is not a defense. It has been shown that it
> is. Your current argument is that they didn't go far enough. That is a
> new issue.

Uh, I haven't been claiming anything all along. I just stepped into this
thread...

> Lowering their risk is a matter of removing the high risk groups,
> it doesn't necessarily mean to remove ALL risk. Without access
> to their files and attorneys you can only speculate about their
> motives and with no way to determine how accurate those
> speculations are they will remain speculations.

Actually, the only thing I speculated on was that iSTAR isn't going to be a
leader in any anti-censorship movements. I think that speculation is probably
about as close to fact as one can get, given their actions.

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From: scott@galileo.cuug.ab.ca (Scott Barker)
Subject: Re: iStar memo:  don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
Date: 1996/07/20
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