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Article #44Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
From: Xanlithe
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:00
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In article <4sirtf$ove@news.interlog.com>, alchemy@interlog.com says... > >jay@inforamp.net (Xanlithe) wrote: > > > >>>R. v. Jorgensen, [1995] 4 S.C.R. 55 >>> > >> While the above (in its entirety) may be valuable in deciding what is >>legal and illegal, I still maintain that the deletion of the 35 groups was >>politically/morally motivated. > >You may be right, but I understand that the decision was based on the >advice of their counsel (hence the name of the thread being "LAWYER AS >COP, JUDGE AND JURY" or something like it). And as mentioned afore, some of the decision to delete those 35 newsgroups was based on consultation with RCMP officer(s). I repeat myself, but I still find it odious that 35 groups eliminated constitutes any kind of guarantee that iStar now absolves itself of any legal liability for its content that it carries. >There is certainly political and public relations points to be gained, >but unless we are told by iSTAR's managers why they deleted the groups >we can only speculate on their motives. A copy of the "secret" memo is widely availble, so I won't duplicate it here. No motive is assignable other than from a legal standpoint. From that memo, but judging by its content, it is obvious that it has more political/moral ramifications than legal, if one stops to analyse it. BTW, I have NOT seen the advertisement that has appeared in some print media. From what I've heard, though, it seems more like damage control than anything else. >Morton M. Goldmacher >Barrister and Solicitor I would have to ask you (as a Barrister and Solicitor, which I am certainly not) how iStar's removal of these groups improves their REAL legal position wrt to liability for content. I maintain that it does not really reduce their liability, so they may as well carry a full feed, or don't carry Usenet at all.
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