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Article #48Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
From: C. Peter Constantinidis
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:00
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Putting aside for the moment the "save the children" crap which has been rationalized at one time or another by everyone including the Nazis. There is a way to try to change the laws or make them clearer without first getting charged. All citizens as far as I know, have the ability to fund a consitutional/legal challenge against a specific law without being charged for it beforehand. This approach of 'seizing the bull by the horns' has a huge advantage in that the Crown cannot 'drop' the charges after you're almost bankrupt and on the verge of winning. This has been consistently the case with section 462.2 (related to so called 'drug paraphenalia' which at one point was broad enough to have a picture of a marijuana plant in the encyclopaedia illegal). Anyways literature is now legal again, but 'paraphenlia' is not, except there is no definition of what paraphenalia really is. So the method used by the Crown and police to harass people with it, is to charge someone with it's vague definition, seize stock (esp. if it's a store), let it run on for a long time in court, and THEN drop the charges. So now there are some (at least 2) constitutional challenges in progress by pro-hemp people. I can't remember if both resulted from being charged though. However my point is, wouldn't it be nice if a coalition of ISPs pooled together and funded their own legal fight to 'clarify' the situation once and for all? Having a definitive definition would let them rest easier at night, and customers everywhere would be happy because then most systems would be more or less the same in terms of 'enforcement' of what people see to protect their puny minds of course. Snort. Grabbing the bull by the horns puts the fascists on the defensive.. P. C. Peter C. (yu156589@yorku.ca) Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11544f,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid11544f,public X-Google-Thread: 12c2cc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid12c2cc,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 115882,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid115882,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public X-Google-Thread: 13d6bc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid13d6bc,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public From: yu156589@yorku.ca (C. Peter Constantinidis) Subject: Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups Date: 1996/07/18 Message-ID: <31ede7d6.1190911@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> X-Deja-AN: 168725504 distribution: inet references: <4rmsbp$5ur@insight.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <4shftu$jpr@news.inforamp.net> <DuoAwo.CrB@ferret.ocunix.on.ca> <4siuqa$qa@news.inforamp.net> <DupvDx.CwA@ferret.ocunix.on.ca> organization: York University newsgroups: inforamp.general,inforamp.support,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,can.legal,can.infohighway,tor.general,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty,ont.general