🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: inforamp.general
Article #52

Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups

#52
From: John R. Shaw
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:00
32 lines
2854 bytes
On Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:55:30 GMT, alchemy@interlog.com (Morton
Goldmacher) wrote:

>
>There is certainly political and public relations points to be gained,
>but unless we are told by iSTAR's managers why they deleted the groups
>we can only speculate on their motives.

Is not silence often  the refuge of scoundrels and liars, so why
should silence not allow us to asusme the worst ?

>
>Morton M. Goldmacher
>Barrister and Solicitor

I have a question that maybe a lawyer could answer.  It seems to me
that many newsgroups carry messages that are libelous, and fraudulent,
and perhaps there is no group that has not been spammed with illegal
scam adverts.

If the basis is only to stop groups with illegal material then why are
these groups not also banned if 'illegality' is the only criteria ? 

While this is only speculation it would seem that the intent must run
deeper than simply law enforcement, perhaps they want a legal
precedent, for when they extend their control further ?
***********************************************************

homepage at <http://www.icons.net/~horton/BayView.html>

***********************************************************
Technical Details
Message-ID: <31ee384d.89865568@news.icons.net>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mail
References: <4rmsbp$5ur@insight.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <jbtoacf.-0707960850350001@ip93-106.tor.interlog.com> <4rpjjn$pbr@news1.io.org> <4rsidl$ufa@news3.realtime.net> <4rtnus$lb4@presence.lglobal.com> <4ru2st$r9o@news.interlog.com> <31e2af17.73369975@news.interlog.com> <4s67fc$hco@news.interlog.com> <rgd-1207961636160001@ts26-12.tor.istar.ca> <4s6h4j$lt3@news.interlog.com> <4sgddb$ifi@news.interlog.com> <4shep8$jpr@news.inforamp.net> <4sirtf$ove@news.interlog.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 11544f,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gid11544f,public
X-Google-Thread: 115882,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gid115882,public
X-Google-Thread: 10643c,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public
X-Google-Thread: 12c2cc,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gid12c2cc,public
X-Google-Thread: 13d6bc,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gid13d6bc,public
X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public
X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public
X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,c936b9b6252ee44d
X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public
From: horton@icons.net (John R. Shaw)
Subject: Re: iStar memo:  don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
Date: 1996/07/18
Message-ID: <31ee384d.89865568@news.icons.net>
X-Deja-AN: 169453552
distribution: inet
references: <4rmsbp$5ur@insight.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <jbtoacf.-0707960850350001@ip93-106.tor.interlog.com> <4rpjjn$pbr@news1.io.org> <4rsidl$ufa@news3.realtime.net> <4rtnus$lb4@presence.lglobal.com> <4ru2st$r9o@news.interlog.com> <31e2af17.73369975@news.interlog.com> <4s67fc$hco@news.interlog.com> <rgd-1207961636160001@ts26-12.tor.istar.ca> <4s6h4j$lt3@news.interlog.com> <4sgddb$ifi@news.interlog.com> <4shep8$jpr@news.inforamp.net> <4sirtf$ove@news.interlog.com>
organization: Internet Connectivity Services Inc., Ottawa,ON,Canada
reply-to: horton@icons.net
newsgroups: inforamp.general,inforamp.support,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,can.legal,can.infohighway,tor.general,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty,ont.general