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Article #54Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
From: Scott Barker
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 00:00
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On Thu, 18 Jul 1996 01:02:00 GMT, Jim Manson (jmanso19@skypoint.com) wrote: > The basis for being able to prosecute them would be *intent* to be a > party to distributing illegal material. Carrying a news group called > alt.binary.erotic.picture.children shows intent to allow the > distribution of pictures of child pornography. The name > kinda gives it away. The same picture being passed through > alt.binary.misc (or some such) may be just as illegal of a photo > but the ISP cannot be shown to have known about it. Bullshit. The name means nothing. What if the group is all about why such pictures should *not* exist? What about the various alt.sex groups which by their name should be banned, but actually carry useful medical and/or recovery information? If I write a book called 'How to Screw Your Dog', does that mean it contains beastiality and must be banned? How can you know unless you read it first? Is iSTAR responsible for reading the contents of all the groups? I hardly think so. And if they were, they'd have no choice but to shut down their news feed completely. "What's in a name...?" How about alt.barney.die.die.die which clearly carries articles promoting hatred, and possibly carries articles containing conversations relating to the committing of a murder. iSTAR acted out of the foolishness all-to present in our society. Foolishness caused by lawyers, politicians and special interest groups. Foolishness caused by the apathy of the people to protect their rights to take care of themselves, and tell "Big Brother" to piss off. History has shown time and time again that prohibition, censorship and repressionism don't work. It's time for people to take a stand against them. Unfortunately, it seems iSTAR doesn't have the backbone to be a leader. That's their right, but it is disappointing. I just hope that the academic community which started USENET never gets into the business of censorship. Maybe it's time we all donated some money to our local University's computer resource centres so that they can get powerful machines with lots of disk space, and turn the academics into the main distributors of news again. -- Scott Barker Linux Consultant scott@galileo.cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~barkers/ (under construction) [ I try to reply to all e-mail within 5 days. If you don't ] [ get a response by then, I probably didn't get your e-mail ] [ (we have a sometimes sporadic connection to the internet) ] "It may be meaningless, but at least it's a gesture." - Dave Barry
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11544f,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid11544f,public X-Google-Thread: 12c2cc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid12c2cc,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public X-Google-Thread: 115882,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid115882,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: 13d6bc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid13d6bc,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public From: scott@galileo.cuug.ab.ca (Scott Barker) Subject: Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups Date: 1996/07/18 Message-ID: <4slqbb$7bj@galileo.cuug.ab.ca> X-Deja-AN: 169472279 distribution: inet references: <4rmsbp$5ur@insight.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <4sf5ia$428@news.inforamp.net> <radfordr-1607962133300001@ts33-13.tor.istar.ca> <4shftu$jpr@news.inforamp.net> <DuoAwo.CrB@ferret.ocunix.on.ca> <4siuqa$qa@news.inforamp.net> <31ed8a32.1048590@news.skypoint.com> followup-to: inforamp.general,inforamp.support,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,can.legal,can.infohighway,tor.general,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty,ont.general organization: Die-Hard DOS Haters newsgroups: inforamp.general,inforamp.support,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,can.legal,can.infohighway,tor.general,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty,ont.general