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Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups

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From: Xanlithe
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:00
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In article <4rt5sv$3u@milo.vcn.bc.ca>, lalee@vcn.bc.ca says...

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>So they can't monitor IRC, FTP, and e-mail traffic yet they can monitor 
>6000+ (rough estimate) UseNet newsgroups and somehow screen what is 
>contained within. If van.general was bombarded with illegal material for 
>a matter of months that is crossposted from banned newsgroups, would 
>van.general be up for removal/banning?
>
	Actually 20000+. And it appears that yes this NG would have to be 
banned if I-Star knew what it contained. 
	But don't let any of us fool ourselves: this was only a quasi-legal 
decision. Because they have not taken steps to fully scrutinize and do many 
more deletions, it is obvious that they are not truly worried about being 
nabbed or nailed for illegal material. They have made a political/moral 
decision about which groups you may have access to. To me, that's scary, 
because they have now appointed themselves the "guardians". If they go 
further than they have so far and delete all the groups in which illegal 
material appears, or is likely to appear, then I will believe it's a purely 
legal decision. Don't hold your breath.
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From: jay@inforamp.net (Xanlithe)
Subject: Re: iStar memo:  don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
Date: 1996/07/15
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