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Article #78Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
From: Chris Lewis
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:00
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In article <4s8m47$t5o@news.intranet.ca>, Alain Goyette <alaing@intranet.ca> wrote: >alchemy@interlog.com (Morton Goldmacher) wrote: > >>mjlevy@delete_this.interlog.com (Michael Levy) wrote: > > >>>Since you are a lawyer, what is your comment on the viewpoint that the ISP >>>is actually only one step in the continuous transport of data from one >>>user's computer to another. > >>>The ISP is in fact only offering a transportation system like the telcos >>>and that the users are the only creators, modifiers of the content being >>>transported. ISP's only hold (not review, modify nor create it) this data >>>for a finite period of time so that the receiving user can get the senders >>>input.... because unlike telephones they are not direct connections between >>>users. > >>Whether they are holding the offensive material or merely transporting >>it is irrelevent. They are providing a service which may be used for >>propogating illegal obscenities. If they recklessly by facilitate the >>propogation of illegaly pornography they are guilty of being a party >>to the offence. > >That's bull. It that was the case, then the TELCOs would fall under >the same headings as it is very possible, and bloddy likely that some >users will connect directly to each other and exchange the obcene >data. Is the TELCO then responsible for the data transmitted on their >systems? No? then ISP's provide the same functions but under different >time-frames (Eg. instead of being transient, the information is stored >for a finite amount of time.) Please follow the discussion. If a telco _knows_ that, say, a specific customer is routinely "exchanging obscene data", the telco can easily become responsible. Being a common carrier doesn't mean you can turn a blind eye when you _know_ the laws are being violated. -- Chris Lewis: _Una confibula non sat est_
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11544f,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid11544f,public X-Google-Thread: 12c2cc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid12c2cc,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public X-Google-Thread: 115882,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid115882,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 13d6bc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid13d6bc,public From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Subject: Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups Date: 1996/07/13 Message-ID: <DuI5ty.3yI@ferret.ocunix.on.ca> X-Deja-AN: 168249254 distribution: inet references: <4rmsbp$5ur@insight.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <31e2af17.73369975@news.interlog.com> <4s67fc$hco@news.interlog.com> <4s8m47$t5o@news.intranet.ca> organization: eh? newsgroups: inforamp.general,inforamp.support,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,can.legal,can.infohighway,tor.general,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty,ont.general