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Article #85Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
From: Morton Goldmacher
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:00
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lalee@vcn.bc.ca (Lawrence Lee) wrote: >Wouldn't the iStar lawyers have a good position then to scan all e-mail, >because if I'm not totally out there, e-mail is stored on iStar's >computer. If you send a UseNet post from a banned newsgroup is it somehow >legal, or less illegal now? If the police have a warrant for iStar's >servers.. what's the difference in the law if it was in useNet or E-mail? There are several critical differences. First, E-mail is a private communication transmitted from person to person, it does not have a public aspect which would allow the process to be characterized as publication. Although it may be illegal for one person to E-mail an offensive document to another, the internet provider is not complicit in the act of knowingly disseminating offensive material. If the internet provider becomes aware of the E-mail transmissions and willfully tolerates the practise it may risk some exposure to criminal liability. The discontinued newsgroups are created and maintained for the purpose of publishing images and text which are likely to offend the criminal code. Their reason for being is an illegal one. E-mail, on the other hand, is not restricted to any particular content. In order to obtain a conviction under the criminal code, at least for most offenses, the minimum necessary state of mind of the accused is one of recklessness. The intent to commit a criminal act is construed where the accused knew that there was a substantial likelyhood that his activity was a criminal one and proceeded with the activity anyway. In this matter, iSTAR, from the names and charters of the banned newsgroups, knows that there is a substantial likelyhood of the groups being used to publish criminal material. "Knowingly" is proven sufficiently if the Crown shows that the accused had knowlege of the nature of the item: R. v. McFall (1975), B.C.C.A. The very best illucidation of the law regarding the intent aspect of the offence is found in R. v. Metro News Ltd, (1986) Ont. C. A. The mere presence of the offensive images and texts on a server is not enough to inculpate the internet provider. As with the possession of illicit drugs, the offence only exists if the accused knew of its existence or was willfully blind to its existence. The provider must know of the presence of the images and text and also intend to store or transmit them with the server. Morton M. Goldmacher Barrister and Solicitor
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11544f,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid11544f,public X-Google-Thread: 12c2cc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid12c2cc,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: 10643c,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d5,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d5,public X-Google-Thread: 10aaae,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid10aaae,public X-Google-Thread: 115882,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid115882,public X-Google-Thread: 13d6bc,c936b9b6252ee44d X-Google-Attributes: gid13d6bc,public From: alchemy@interlog.com (Morton Goldmacher) Subject: Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups Date: 1996/07/11 Message-ID: <4s3dp3$5c0@news.interlog.com> X-Deja-AN: 167808256 distribution: inet references: <4rmsbp$5ur@insight.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <jbtoacf.-0707960850350001@ip93-106.tor.interlog.com> <4ro8na$du@news.intranet.ca> <radfordr-0807961957040001@ts39-13.tor.istar.ca> <4rs9m5$rf9@milo.vcn.bc.ca> <4rsjbq$ufa@news3.realtime.net> <4ruf8t$35v@milo.vcn.bc.ca> organization: Barrister and Solicitor reply-to: alchemy@interlog.com newsgroups: inforamp.general,inforamp.support,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,can.legal,can.infohighway,tor.general,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty,ont.general