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Re: iStar memo: don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups

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From: Karl Pollak
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:00
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lalee@vcn.bc.ca (Lawrence Lee) wrote:

>Karl, please explain how iStar will be protected when the RCMP find more 
>or less of the same UseNet material on their hard drives in the form of 
>e-mail. You guys talk about location, I understand that, but what 
>explains this...

There is a very easy explanation:

Almost all servers will automatically delete any e-mail as soon as it
has been picked up by the recipient.  So the likelihood of any
appreciate volume of contrband stuff sitting there for the cops to
find is extremely low

E-mail is _addressed_.  It is more or less point-to-point
communication and as such it is protected by the Telecommunications
Act.

>Also, if this material is illegal on iStars computer, would a citizen be 
>out of plae in reporting this to the RCMP and challenging their fears? 

That is a decision every person has to make for himself. But it would
raise a question "how do you know it is there, unless you have
downloaded it?"

>I would find it hard to believe that subscribing to a newsgroup would 
>really prove any liability.. (If you want to debate this then just ask, heh)

It is not "subscribing" that carries the liability, but having files
on your system which fall into any of the prohibited classes.  The
issue is not limited to iStar.  Every ISP faces the same problem.
Maybe they just do it instead of writing memos about it.

Show me any other ISP in Canada that carry the newsgroups that were
mentioned in this thread.  I seriously doubt you will find one.


Karl Pollak               FidoNet 1:153/965
Richmond, B.C.            Canadian Infomaticon BBS
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From: kpollak@portal.ca (Karl Pollak)
Subject: Re: iStar memo:  don't tell customers list of banned newsgroups
Date: 1996/07/10
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