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Re: What I have done regarding Istar censorship

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From: galivan
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 00:00
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On Sat, 13 Jul 1996 05:07:27 GMT, yu156589@yorku.ca (C. Peter
Constantinidis) wrote:

>Today, as a followup to the 4 methods, I wrote to winternet.com
>(info@winternet.com) and asked them to yank their newsfeed to
>inforamp.net.  I told them exactly what was going on with the
>censorship, etc. where they could read more about it (tor.general),
>etc.  I know for a fact that winternet's newfeed is the largest
>incoming feed into inforamp/istar (probably 75%), and winternet
>yanking it, will definitely hurt istar's news service.  It is possible
>this will happen, because in the past they yanked their feed to io.org
>because Mike Horwath got angry at all the pissed off people
>complaining about bad io.org service.  If you write, and the feed to
>istar gets cut off from Winternet, do not worry. I know at least one
>other isp in Toronto does still have a winternet feed, which is
>interlog.com so when you vote with your wallet by leaving istar,
>that's one place among others you can go to. Getting the winternet
>feed cut would be an effective one-two punch at giving corporate
>management a big black eye.

IStar cut 20 odd newsgroups and now you request Winternet, the best
feed,  to cut the feed for all the ones that are left

Pretty big step to take on your own without any regard for the wishes
of anyone else isn't it? 

I've been at IO when Winternet was there, I'm not a big Interlog fan
either. Your actions, if acted upon by Winternet, may adversely effect
by ability to get proper feeds in the groups that are left. I must
remain at iStar while looking for another non iStar fed ISP in the
area with a good feed.  

Im not sure which is worse. iStar's deletion of the 20 some odd
groups, or this attempt to censor the inflow of news to the remaining
groups (over 10,000) in an attempt to "get even." Both effect the
users more than the company. 

Personally, I find this action as irresponsible as iStar's actions
were to begin with. 
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From: galivan@inforamp.net
Subject: Re: What I have done regarding Istar censorship
Date: 1996/07/14
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