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1 total messages Started by Michael Wise Sun, 03 Jan 1993 02:38
Cyrillic Transliteration pt.2
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Author: Michael Wise
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 02:38
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...continued from pt.1
3)Then there is an unnamed inconsistent standard the media uses. The differences between this standard and the LOC standard are that there are no signs for "tvyordyj znak" and "myakij znak," and Yo, Yu, and Ya are used instead of the LOC's E, Iu and Ia.  This standard, like the LOC standard is readable, but won't transliterate perfectly.
 
A, B, V, G, D, E, Yo, Zh, Z, I, Y, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, U, F, Kh, Ts, Ch, Sh, Shch, (no tvyordyj znak), Y, (no myakij znak), Yu Ya
 
 
4) You asked about the standard used in Russia.  The Russian telex standard is:
A, B, V, G, D, E (ie), (no yo), ZH (j), K, L, M, N, O, P R, S, T, U, F, KH (H), C, CH (TCH), SH, SHCH, (no tvyordyj znak), Y, J, E, IU, IA.
 
I have noticed that one of our native Russian speakers here (he uses J where I would use zh).  I have no big problem if people want to use this standard, but I believe it is a very poor standard for transliteration. Why?  Because "J" can be and often is used for both the Zh sound as well as myakij znak.  This can lead to big mistakes during transliteration.  How would you rather see the infinitive of "to read" transliterated: Chitat' or Tchitatj?  I also am not a big fan of using the LOC IU/IA transliterat



ions for reasons earlier mentioned.
 
So we are left with the question of how to make the best possible transliteration standard for the ASCII world.
What I have proposed, and what I continue to recommend people to use is the following scheme Which basically a SEEJ/layman's combo:
                A                K                X,Kh
                B                L                C,Ts
                V                M                Ch
                G                N                Sh
                D                O                Shch
                E                P                "
                E,Yo                R                Y
                Zh                S                '
                Z                T                E
                I                U                Ju,Yu
                J                F                Ja,Ya
 
Where I give two options for the same letter, the first one is the one I personally prefer.  This standard is the most accurate transliteration scheme possible under the limitations of ASCII.
 
I hope I have answered some of your questions on the matter.  If I did not, or if you still have remaining questions, please feel free to ask.
 
                        Poka,
                        Michael W.

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