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Article #630Re: Uzbekistan: not just a country any more
From: Tim May
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:34
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:34
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In article <e10i3m$2j0@u1.netgate.net>, Geoff Miller <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote: > Meg Worley <meg@steam.Stanford.EDU> writes: > > > [1] Pace, Geoffski. Language has changed a bit since the > > corset days when you learned English. > > > Excuse me? You've seen my picture; I doubt I'm much, if at all, > older than you are. Besides, I don't take issue with the way > you used "troll," i.e., as a verb. My objection regarding that > word is people using it as a noun. A person who trolls isn't a > "troll"; he's a *troller.* Back formations, even accidental intersections with established words, are what makes a language rich(er). Akin to punning. Trolling as a noun, derived from trawling, trolling, as in fishing, back-forms a connection to the Old Norse/folk legend image of a troll. The Wikipedia puts it well: "The word likely gained currency because of its apt second meaning, drawn from the "trolls", which are portrayed in Scandinavian folklore, and children's tales, as often ugly, obnoxious creatures that are bent on wickedness and mischief. The image of the troll under the bridge in the "Three Billy Goats Gruff" emphasizes the troll's negative reaction to outsiders intruding on its physical environment, particularly those who intend to graze in its domain without permission." --Tim May
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