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Re: Uzbekistan: not just a country any more

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From: Geoff Miller
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:33
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jeremy  <jeremy@dcnet2000.com> writes:

: Here's an analogy: someone who hacks is a hacker.  Any given example
: of that thing that he does is a hack.  Similarly, someone who trolls
: is a troller.  The provocative post intended to spark emotional res-
: ponses, and not the guy who wrote it, is the troll.

> Therefore god is an iron. Look up the reference.

You're trying to make me jump through hoops, and I don't do hoops.
Sorry, but the onus is on you to explain yourself satisfactorily,
not on me to take up the slack by looking things up and trying to
figure out what it is you're trying to say.


: Trolling, however, is more specialized knowledge.  

> Almost everyone in Europe has more knowledge of fishing than the
> average Joe in the USA. 

That's a rather sweeping statement.  On what basis do you make it?
Do you have comprehensive polling data for both populations?


> What makes you think that trolling is better known in the USA? 

That isn't even what I said, let alone what I think.


> On top of that, what makes you think that your knowledge of English
> and the underlying causes of the anomalies of a language with only
> three regular verbs, has anything to do with the evolution of the 
> usage of a computer term?

You keep coming back to this "only three regular verbs" thing, and
you keep failing to elaborate.  What does it have to do with the
matter at hand?

What makes you think that I think my knowledge of English has anything
to do with it?  More to the point, why would you be inclined to believe
that my knowledge of English isn't up to the task, what with my being a
complete stranger and all?  It seems to me that you don't have much basis
for giving me the detriment of the doubt; it simply serves your purposes
to do so, is all.  Is _ad hominem_ all you have to offer by way of a 
rebuttal?

At any rate, it seems we agree that posting provocative missives on
Usenet in the hope of triggering emotional responses is known as 
"trolling."  Since there's no verb form of "troll" in the mythical-
being sense (like there is with "Jew," e.g., "Jew him down"), the
obvious conclusion to be drawn is that the word in the context of 
Usenet alludes to a type of fishing: fishing for emotional responses,
to be exact.  Therefore, it logically follows that someone who trolls
is a troller and not a troll. Q.E. effin' D.



Geoff

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