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In article <zukor.722049119@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov> zukor@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Karen Zukor) writes:
>First, on the dining database posted by Saumya Meattle:
>
>Who would believe any list that gave the Sawmill (OK steakish
>sort of place) and Cafe Jacoulet (the best Pasadena restaurant
>of all time) the same rating?  Jacoulet shouldn't be on the
>list in any case; it's been closed for at least 1 1/2 years.
>My call:  wrong and out-of-date
The Sawmill is (recently) closed too - for a month or so lately it's
been a tunnel all the way from Lake to the parking lot.  I think walls
are beginning to show up.  The economy has been having its effect on the
south Lake business district (among others) :-(

> ... if Pie and Burger represents Toledo
>cuisine, I might be happy to visit, especially for breakfast.
>The cinnamon and pecan rolls are great, and the only reason I
>don't go there more often is they don't serve breakfast very late
>(I think they close at 10 or so Saturday, which is ridiculous.)
>and it's hard to get in (always a very good sign).
10:30 during the week; I THINK 11 on Saturday and later on Sunday.
I like it too.

I liked Green St. East when they were on Green (even with the same
problem of being hard to get in); I still like it, though it's
gotten overgrown (and STILL hard to get in)...

-- Pete

zukor@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Karen Zukor) writes:

>There's been some traffic here lately which I can't
>help but respond to:

>First, on the dining database posted by Saumya Meattle:

>Who would believe any list that gave the Sawmill (OK steakish
>sort of place) and Cafe Jacoulet (the best Pasadena restaurant
>of all time) the same rating?  Jacoulet shouldn't be on the
>list in any case; it's been closed for at least 1 1/2 years.
>My call:  wrong and out-of-date

There were LOTS of non-existent restaurants on this list--
I counted at least six or seven in Pasadena, including
Billabong which has been closed for at least four years!
Saumya's response was, "Well, maybe it's out of date,
but it's better than nothing," which is, I suppose, 
arguably true.  I didn't notice that the list had a rating
for each restaurant--I'll have to go back and look at it
again.

>On the topic of Pasadena breakfasts:

>Pieter Hazawindus starts out fine when he lists Birdie's,
>but things deteriorate from there.  I have never liked anything
>at the Konditori 

Actually, their Danish is to die for--VERY different from the
"Danish" you get at most places.  Highly recommended.

>I recommend to Gaylin Laughlin to progress past the Old Town
>coffee and brioche and try the chocolate/fig French toast.

Actually, I'm wondering how he tolerates the perfectly abysmal
service there.

>One last breakfast tip:

>The best croissants in Pasadena are at Patticakes at the
>corner of Allen and New York.

I don't agree--I've sometimes had croissants there that were
tough and not fresh.  I vote for Cafe 60 North's croissants,
though I can't claim to have tried the croissants at every
new breakfast place in town.

NEW PASADENA COFFEE PLACE ALERT:

Cleo & Cucci's (next door to Mi Piace, on the other side from
the Pasadena Bakery) has great coffee, great tea, comfy wicker
chairs, nice atmosphere, and truffles from Cocolat!


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