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Article #1663Re: 710 Freeway suit
From: John Hascall
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:00
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Jeff Bishop <jwbishop@uclink4.berkeley.edu> wrote:
}John Hascall wrote:
}> Ron Newman <rnewman@shell1.cybercom.net> wrote:
}> }This is South Pasadena's decision. Nobody should be forcing them
}> }to destroy their community for the benefit of others.
}>
}> Besides, there is plenty of history to show that such
}> a freeway would be JUST as congested in short order.
}
}That part is a bit short on logic, I believe. Perhaps you can explain
}how this works. Are there a bunch of people around Pasadena who don't
}drive, but will start doing so every day during rush hour once they hear
}a new freeway is up?!
The process is called "triple divergence/triple convergence".
In the face of (unacceptable to them) congestion, motorists
will diverge from their choosen "plan" in 3 ways:
* Time shifting
* Mode shifting
* Route shifting
When congestion is reduced (e.g., by turning a surface street
into a freeway), the opposite occurs, these people reconverge
(up until congestion reachs equilibrium again).
John
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