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Article #1665Re: 710 Freeway suit
From: Richard Moeur
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:00
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:00
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Charles P. Hobbs wrote: > That might not be such a bad plan for South Pasadena: build a > tunnel for the freeway, then charge tolls to pay for the extra > expense. . . Ooohh. Tunnel? Bad idea. Not because of the cost, though - after all, we can get FHWA to pay 95%, right? (irony intended) As part of the environmental process approving the route of I-10 through central Phoenix, it was decided that a 1/2 mile long tunnel would be used in the segment through the downtown area, and a neighborhood park would be built above the freeway. Well, the park turned out nice, and the freeway's impact was diminished somewhat, but here are the consequences: 1. As many of you know who drive through tunnels regularly, they don't have the capacity of an equivalent section of freeway, due to reduced visibility, plus the driver's feelings of 'confinement'- i.e. no place to go in case of trouble. 2. This half mile stretch has a significantly greater accident rate than other comparable stretches of highway, due to reduced visibility and driver reactions. 3. The tunnel is much more expensive to operate and maintain than a comparable section of depressed freeway (24 hour lighting, drainage, ventilation, cleaning, etc.) The point? Just one thing: Solutions which may seem to have the least impact in one area have many other impacts, which need to be taken into consideration. -- Richard C. Moeur, P.E., N7WTB, E.C.I., whatever... Practicing Traffic Engineer (I'll get it right someday...) Phoenix, Arizona, USA "Life is just one W1-5 after another, until the W14-1" The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the Arizona Department of Transportation. Really. Now Open!: http://members.aol.com/rcmoeur :9
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 104eff,a3fa844df4dc0fbd X-Google-Attributes: gid104eff,public X-Google-Thread: f7890,1c921eb16bb9851e X-Google-Attributes: gidf7890,public X-Google-Thread: 10001a,a3fa844df4dc0fbd X-Google-Attributes: gid10001a,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,a3fa844df4dc0fbd X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public X-Google-Thread: f59f9,a3fa844df4dc0fbd X-Google-Attributes: gidf59f9,public From: Richard Moeur <rcmoeur@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: 710 Freeway suit Date: 1996/10/21 Message-ID: <326BA286.3BBD@earthlink.net> X-Deja-AN: 190971801 references: <markscha-0110962313000001@ts38-9.wla.ts.ucla.edu> <5358su$asm@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <01bbb645$1fe635c0$f0d093cf@mark> <53uhvh$smg@ordeal.cts.com> <01bbbc8c$786a5b20$33ec93cf@stalemate> <5476kc$dnv@bogus.cts.com> <32692CDD.6D39@uclink4.berkeley.edu> <3269A9B3.4BAC@primenet.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: rcmoeur@aol.com newsgroups: la.general,ca.politics,ca.driving,misc.transport.road,la.transportation x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; U; 68K)