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In article <d9noch$n5n$1@blue.rahul.net>,
 Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@green.rahul.net> wrote:
>In ca.general BTR1701 <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>> I've got an idea to "fix it."  STOP giving it away to people who
>>> didn't earn it, to people who are not entitled to it.  That means all
>>> illegal aliens.  Kick them the f*ck out of the country.  Stop throwing
>>> money at them; it only encourages more of their kind to sneak across
>>> the border.

>     Social Security is not "given away" to people who don't earn
>it.  The amount of your monthly check depends on how much you have
>contributed over the years.  

The amount _taken_ from you -- it's not a "contribution" -- provides the 
government with a means to calibrate how much it feels like giving you, but 
it has nothing to do with "earning" it.  The money taken from you is not 
invested on your behalf; you are not given a return on that investment.  
That's simply part of the subterfuge by FDR to make people think that SS 
was a retirement program rather than a welfare program.

>(You should be getting a letter from
>the Social Security Administration every year detailing your expected
>monthly check based on assumptions about your future earnings and
>FICA tax payments.)
>     BTW employers have been known to charge illegal alien employees
>Social Security, Unemployment, IRS withholding, and other taxes and
>then...keep the money themselves rather than send it to the
>government.  After all, the employees are in no position to complain.

That doesn't make any sense.  Why would employers go through that 
chicanery, rather than simply lowering the pay that they offer?  Why would 
an illegal alien care whether his employer said, "Here's $200, minus $50 
being deducted for IRS withholding," or "Here's $150"?

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David M. Nieporent    nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu