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From: BTR1701
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:57
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:57
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In article <nieporen-5A0197.06451725062005@host170.octanews.net>, David Marc Nieporent <nieporen@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote: > In article <d9im0l$4ch$2@blue.rahul.net>, > Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@green.rahul.net> wrote: > >In ca.general BTR1701 <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@green.rahul.net> wrote: > > >>> Frankly I don't think that a different decision would really > >>> have changed anything. Governments would have seized the land for > >>> "a park," then a few months later turned around and sold it to the > >>> private developers. > > >> Yeah, you're probably right. > >> Frankly, I don't know why I should be allowed to have a savings account, > >> either. I'm sure Wal-Mart or some real estate developer could put the > >> money to better use. This would surely be "for the public good." > > > The property owners will, I'm sure, be paid more than their > >property is worth (though of course that was not the point of > >their suit). > > No; by definition, they're being paid less than the property is worth to > them. If they were being paid more, they'd sell. > > In practical terms, anybody who has been involved in a legal condemnation > actions knows that the amounts paid are always lowballed. Monopsonies > backed up with guns tend to have an awful lot of market power. > > >A savings account has no value beyond its dollar > >price, so if the govt seizes your $5000 account and pays you $6000 > >for it, I don't see that you have a lot of complaints coming. > >(Except on general principle.) > > Yeah. Pesky principles. > > Besides, BTR, he's right -- they have to compensate you when they take your > property via eminent domain. When they want to take your savings accounts, > they just say the magic words "taxing the rich" and seize it. Yes, I hadn't thought of that. Now I'm depressed that I realize my sarcastic example is actually true.
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