🚀 go-pugleaf

geoffm@u1.netgate.net (Geoff Miller) wrote in message news:<c2iu8r$dhr@u1.netgate.net>...
> Earlier I suggested:
> 
> : Go someplace else, obviously -- someplace that isn't covered
> : by the sleeping ban.  Someplace that isn't Santa Cruz, in
> : other words.
> 
> 
> Proprclr <balanco01@yahoo.com> rebuts thusly:
> 
> > Unfortunately, sleeping bans are in effect in many, many areas,
> > all over America. 
> 
> "Many, many areas" isn't the same as "all areas."  Obviously,
> vagrants will eventually find places to sleep legally if they
> keep looking for them.  Hint: they'd have the best luck in 
> places that aren't either upscale or already overrun with 
> their kind.  Places that are either rural or on the outskirts
> of town, as somebody else put it.
> 
> 
> > Many (if not most) of these places don't even have this fact
> > posted in public.
> 
> I suspect that's because when the laws were enacted, it never
> occurred to anybody that sleeping in public would become a 
> common enough problem that signs explicitly prohibiting it
> would be necessary.  Kinda like how one seldom sees signs
> warning against public urination, even though you can bet your
> ass and hat that that's illegal in just about every city and
> town as well.

 Sadly, there are few public restrooms out there, and it's hard
for them to find someplace to p.
> 
> Look, the ultimate solution to this stuff (as opposed to the
> Final Solution) would be for these indigents to either get
> their lives together, remove themselves from civilization,
> or croak.  Adapt, migrate, or die, in other words.  Pick one.
> 
> It's to be expected that polite society 

 I hate to hark on this, but what polite society? The society that
spends much of its time obsessed with money, buying crap at Wal*mart,
and shutting themselves out from the world's problems? The society
that often condemns people who are different, asnd finds excuses
to treat them like shit? "Polite" society isn't as polite as you may think


> is going to look askance
> at the sort of behavior associeted with vagrants: public sleeping,
> public shitting and pissing, panhandling, and poor hygiene,

 Remember, there are no public showers, and very few charities that have
them available for the homeless

> to
> name several that come readily to mind -- not to mention the
> often poor social skills and outright deranged behavior that's
> common among such people.  


> Why do bleeding-heart liberals like
> you have such a powerful instinct for defending society's failures
> and fuckups?
> 

 Maybe society ,or their parents, or the economy ("You're being laid off. 
We are "sending" your job overseas") failed them. 

> 
> 
> Geoff