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Dick <tjdick@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > You have said on several occasions indefinite things about not
having
> > seen Australian statistics supporting our claims --but you never
said
> > that you looked for them.  I challenge you, as an apologist and
actual
> > employee of the Australian government[1], to find statistics on the
> > number of firearms-related homicides in the state of Victoria.  You
> > will see that there has been about a 300% *increase* since the ban.


lambert@cse.unsw.edu.au wrote:
> No he won't, because there hasn't been such an increase.  I know
> this because I've looked up the actual numbers.  This bogus claim
> has been debunked many times in talk.politics.guns, but pro-gunners
> keep repeating it.

How has it been debunked, Tim?  Merely anti-gunners denying it?  We are
at a stalemate regarding stats when neither side accepts those of the
other.

Here are facts that cannot be refuted:
0) None of the Australian apologists have responded to any other part
of that post, nor will they.

1) My behavior has not been harmful to anyone, and *any* statistics in
Australia have nothing to do with my right to own firearms in the USA.

2) Your boorish anti-gun evangelism on usenet will not change anyone's
mind.  Koroush has taken great pleasure in posting flame-bait troll
posts with smart-ass subject lines like, "Guns don't kill... ...bullets
do" with no other purpose than to get a flame-fest going.  Then he
personally attacks those who disagree with him (calling
them "intellectually challenged," etc.), yet he dodges important issues
after he is refuted rather than admitting he was wrong about them.

3)  The United States of America is no longer part of the UK, and
hasn't been for quite some time.  Get over it and take your
presumptuous grass-roots campaign elsewhere.  Why don't you ban
something else in Australia?  How 'bout free speech or the right to a
fair trial?


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