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Article #2291Re: "Concealed Carry" laws STOP SHOOTING SPREES!
From: George T. Kramer
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00
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Hello Merlin. >> You write: "Tell it to the Teamsters." The AFL-CIO already knows. >> You write: "You've pretty much got it backwards. It is the line officers who are union members, and the chiefs who are anti-union because the union wants to interfere with decisions on raises, promotions, policies, etc. If the unions that represent police (as distinct from groups like the IACP, which represent chiefs) are pro-gun-control, it's not because they reflect the views of the chiefs. In my ciy, the police association and its president are often at severe odds with the chief and the mayor." Like the FOP, IACP is a political animal. It curries favor the the party that represents them. It is generally true that the Chief of Police will be at odds with the FOP, but strangely they agree upon gun control, even if the vast majority of rank and file police officers don't. I already know why the FOP marches lockstep with gun-control activists - the are in bed with the Democratic Party. It is much less clear why the IACP is generally in favor of gun control, except that a great many city managers, mayors, and city councilmen favor gun control, whereas the Chief of Police reports to them. >> You ask: "Who elects those union and association executives, anyway??" Rank and file union members, of course. However, gun control is not an issue that plays any part of the election process. With the local, it is all about pay raises, benefits, and job security, spiced liberally with insider politics. This I am quite familiar with. In addition, many local union presidents use their position as a starting point to launch their own public political careers. >> You state: "If you live in a state where unions have more power than (other) lobbyists, you are just about unique" Hardly. The AFL-CIO collected (e.g., embezzled) 15� per paycheck (where union dues were collected) from each and every union member, nationwide, for almost an entire year in order to raise $35 million for the Democratic Party. Very few lobbies can match this level of fundraising for campaign contributions. Cordially, George T. Kramer "Don't Tread On Me!"
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 1044e7,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gid1044e7,public X-Google-Thread: ffe14,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gidffe14,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public From: "George T. Kramer" <geomoto@sprynet.com> Subject: Re: "Concealed Carry" laws STOP SHOOTING SPREES! Date: 1999/09/17 Message-ID: <7ru072$5q2$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net> X-Deja-AN: 526414181 References: <7q1ll8$e7p$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7r9da0$1eq@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <7rbbt9$iku$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7rkj50$35a@dfw-ixnews13.ix.netcom.com> <7rm4dv$rd2$1@agate-ether.berkeley.edu> <7rmdj6$fmi$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net> <7rn36u$mjp@dfw-ixnews15.ix.netcom.com> X-Server-Date: 17 Sep 1999 18:10:42 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Organization: Fire Software Engineering Newsgroups: la.general,ca.general,alt.activism,talk.politics.guns