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Re: Kid Friendly Cities, an analysis.

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From: Elric of Imrryr
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 00:00
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In article <37dcb3cf.904534550@news.earthlink.net>, javajunky1234@eudoramail.com says...
> 
> This does not equate to your prior statement that teens have (in your
> not so humble opinion) "no rights, including the right to work." All
> Americans have the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of
> happiness". No where did our founding fathers say "as long as 
> they are over the  age of 18". This is a modern day addition by folks
> like you.
> 
> In fact, the Supreme Court has declared many of these curfew laws
> unconstitutional and a violation of civil rights because of the
> actions of law abiding teens convincing attorneys to help them 
> dispute and challenge them.

Actually our founding fathers only intended that the franchise of rights would extend to 
property owning adult males. Althought the right of teens to work has existed in the US until 
the labor laws of the past hundred years limited the types and hours of works not non-adults 
could engage in.

Currently the Supreme has held that there is no right to work. You can be denied the employment 
(and in fact most of your liberty) if you do not have a federally assigned ID Number and the 
identity documents to back it up. Hiring someone without a federal ID# is a serious crime. You 
also can not be self-employed w/o a federally assigned ID#.

Although curfew laws are hard to hold up in court. They are still an effective tool which allows 
the police to stop and question any young males. Very few young males found to be in violation 
of other laws will have the financial backing or intelligence to fight their initial stop on 
constitutional grounds.

As our soceity ages, it will naturally limit the freedoms of the young to protect the property 
and wealth owning senior citizens who have the highest voter turn-out rate.

Lastly civil liberties are suspended in a state of emergency. The US is currently in a state of 
emergency (actually about 5), under various executive orders. Most of the federal gov't is in  
vioaltion of the 10th amendment, but you will not hear a peep from the Supreme Court.
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From: Elric_of_Imrryr@email.com (Elric of Imrryr)
Subject: Re: Kid Friendly Cities, an analysis.
Date: 1999/09/05
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