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Re: "Concealed Carry" laws STOP SHOOTING SPREES!

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From: Merlin Dorfman
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:00
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In ca.general Dick <tjdick@my-deja.com> wrote:

: I remember an Aussie imploring after this happened, "Don't give in an
: inch!"

     I know nothing of Australian law or politics...but was the
majority of the population/voters in favor of complete abolotion
of guns?  If not, what kind of dictatorship imposed abolition?
If, as you say, crime and murder skyrocketed after abolition, did
the voters think about reversing the abolition?  If not, why not?
(Say what you like about Australia, it is a democracy.)

: It happened in New Jersey and New York.  As soon as gun owners were
: given enough time to register, their guns were collected by the state.
: Maybe you'd feel safer living in New York City or Newark, NJ?

     I do know something about law and politics in the United
States, and I don't see how "collection" of guns could withstand
a constitutional challenge.  (Of course, I don't see how foreiture
laws against suspected drug dealers [never charged, much less
convicted] could stand up to a constitutional challenge, either...
but they did.)
     (Are you saying that all guns in NY and NJ were seized by the
state government?  And none are left in private hands, at least
not legally?)
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From: Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@netcom16.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: "Concealed Carry" laws STOP SHOOTING SPREES!
Date: 1999/08/31
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