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Article #2346Re: "Concealed Carry" laws STOP SHOOTING SPREES!
From: frankhappy
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:00
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Concealed carry (CCW) is really ingenious because the bad guys do not know who is carrying while the average person does not freak out. Open- carry might lead to shootouts or jumpy cops or confused intentions. Vermont supposedly allows open carry with no problems but I am not sure if it would work in other states. The other problem with open carry would be buildings would put up signs to keep you out. Does anyone know if the building in Buckhead (Atlanta) where Barton went crazy prohibited CCW? I know the building owners are being sued because of lax security. I agree with the original poster that Hollywood and the entertainment industry is probably a more serious problem than the gun industry. The entertainment industry glorifies gun violence to rake in billions in profits. The mega-violent movies are also target marketed to young males. No wonder young men go nuts with guns. I am not making excuses for kids but kids had access to guns in the 1950s but not mega-violent films or video games like today. They had westerns but they were a lot different. Guns on airplanes is a bad idea. You shoot a hole in the plane and you have some real problems. Does anyone know where I can get more details about the CCW incident in Jacksonville where the perp counted to 10 and only got to 8? CCW is such a great idea, pure genius. In article <lM2x3.711$tz3.476@news.flash.net>, "Kevin Baker" <khbaker@flash.net> wrote: > Carry is more effective when concealed because then someone intent on > committing a crime has no idea who is and who isn't armed. Plus, those > people who are frightened easily aren't bothered by the few of us who wish > to carry. Third, wearing a gun openly when dressed for inclement weather is > awkward at best, and a gun worn openly tends to detract from the appearance > of dress wear. > > -- > To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. > To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, > merely the domesticated. > > (Thanks to Trefor Thomas) > D. Gerasimatos wrote in message <7q22ns$lfi$1@agate- ether.berkeley.edu>... > >In article <7q21di$f33$1@hpcvnews.cv.hp.com>, > >Tom Huffman <toemoss@cv.hp.com> wrote: > >> The one aspect of this that has to be recognized is > >>that conceled carry permits aren't valid in certain places, > >>including schools. This is why Kip Kinkel was successful , > >>haven't absorbed the concept that CCW holders have a much > >>lower crime rate than the general public, and are *much* > >>more accurate than the police. They're also at the place > >>of the crime *WHEN IT HAPPENS*, not 5 or 10 minutes later. > > > > > > > >My question is... > > > > > >Why are concealed weapons necessary? Why not just carry your firearms > >visibly on your person? That's probably a more effective deterrent, > >don't you think? > > > > > > > >Dimitri > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 1044e7,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gid1044e7,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public X-Google-Thread: ffe14,d5c1ef4f8b2fc850 X-Google-Attributes: gidffe14,public From: frankhappy@my-deja.com Subject: Re: "Concealed Carry" laws STOP SHOOTING SPREES! Date: 1999/08/31 Message-ID: <7qhh7t$9nb$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Deja-AN: 519431121 References: <7q1ll8$e7p$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7q21di$f33$1@hpcvnews.cv.hp.com> <7q22ns$lfi$1@agate-ether.berkeley.edu> <lM2x3.711$tz3.476@news.flash.net> X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x35.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 199.227.63.22 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Aug 31 21:25:31 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDfrankhappy Newsgroups: la.general,ca.general,alt.activism,talk.politics.guns X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)