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In ca.general Tom Huffman <toemoss@cv.hp.com> wrote:
:      The one aspect of this that has to be recognized is
: that conceled carry permits aren't valid in certain places,
: including schools.  This is why Kip Kinkel was successful
: in his shooting spree in Eugene, OR (my home state, where
: CCW is "shall issue").
:      Were CCW holders allowed to carry on school grounds,
: Kip would be dead (or at least stopped quickly) and there
: would only be a few victims; possibly none, if someone saw
: him coming in the door and confronted him.

     There was an armed guard at Columbine.  I never did hear
all the details about him--did he just duck under his desk?

:      Yeah, I agree that airlines aren't a good place for
: CCW; people get too frightened in cases of bad turbulence.
: But other places, such as schools, need the protection of
: CCW holders.

     It's not a matter of "frightened."  Bullets tend to put
holes in things, and a hole in a pressurized fuselage at 
30,000 feet isn't good for anybody's health.

:      And those who think this will only increase violence,
: haven't absorbed the concept that CCW holders have a much
: lower crime rate than the general public, and are *much*
: more accurate than the police.  They're also at the place
: of the crime *WHEN IT HAPPENS*, not 5 or 10 minutes later.

    It's not the CCW holders I'm worried about.  It's the arms
race when the gang bangers, drug lords, etc. discover that the
victims are shooting back.  Is the next step a permit to carry
an Uzi to match the bad guys?