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Re: Gun Control in LA? NO WAY!

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From: Merlin Dorfman
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:00
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In ca.general Dick <tjdick@my-deja.com> wrote:

: 3) Ammunition is cheaper, in some cases by an order of magnitude (!) in
: military calibers than for "pure hunting only" calibers.  For example,
: a box of twenty (20) 7mm magnum, a hunting load for a bolt-action
: rifle, costs around $16. Ouch!  However, a box of twenty .223 (for the
: AR-15 mentioned above) is only $2 or $3.  You can imagine the savings
: for people who actually enjoy shooting their guns, such as myself.
: BTW, if you saw the expensive ammo you would understand why it's
: expensive because it *looks* expensive:  large brass & gold-colored and
: finely-machined.  Military ammo is smaller in size and not so flashy.

     I would assume that smaller ammunition would be cheaper
anyway; but with the huge quantities that military ammo is
produced in (especially for machine-gun type equipment) it should
come down in cost.  Or does the mil-spec aspect make it more
expensive due to paperwork, "gold plating," etc.?
....

: Regarding Freudian slips: Yes, absolutely Freudian slips are usually
: sexual (as was the Bush quote you mentioned).  Look up the dictionary
: definition:  "a slip of the tongue that is motivated by and reveals
: some unconscious aspect of the mind."  What Clinton said in disdain of
: "the rights of ordinary Americans" was nothing to do with sex or
: something else from his subconscious mind, it was yet another example
: of him sticking his foot in his mouth, as he would do far more often
: without his almost daily polling.

     Bill Clinton often says (and does) very stupid things.  How
stupid was it to have an affair in the White House knowing that
a completely unethical and increasingly desperate Special
Prosecutor was watching his every move?

: I do not understand why you contend what Clinton meant by that remark.
: You yourself have been critical of Clinton in this thread.

     I have no idea what he meant by it.  The reference in this thread
was the first time I had seen it.  I'm not 100% convinced it happened
at all, though the several paragraphs "quoted" make it less likely
that it is a misquote like "I loathe the military."
     I'm very critical of Bill Clinton in some ways.  Overall I
think he has been quite a good president, certainly not deserving
of impeachment for what was clearly not "treason, bribery, or other
high crimes and misdemeanors in office," and clearly much better than
those who ran against him.
     One of the saddest commentaries I have about the US today is
that none of the candidates who ran for president, or for the
nomination for president, would have been better than Clinton.
A country of 2 million produced Washington, Adams, Jefferson,
Hamilton, Franklin, Mason, etc., etc., and the best a country of
250 million can do is--Clinton, Bush, and Dole???

: Like Dianne Feinstein, Clinton seems oblivious of the 14th Amendment
: (which asserts the law applies equally to all of us) and considers
: himself to be above us, his subjects.  As Vincent Bugliosi points out
: in "No Island of Sanity:  Paula Jones v. Bill Clinton: The Supreme
: Court on Trial," it is unfortunate that the court mis-handled the case
: and treated the President as any other person, when they SHOULD have
: given him the special treatment that he correctly deserved
: (postponement of the civil suit until his term was over) *because* he
: is a public servant.  Everything is really screwed up now, and that
: damaged the presidency.

     One of the worst things about the whole impeachment history is
that Clinton and Starr insisted on asserting weighty constitutional
principles and establishing critical precedents over such trivia.
As a result of Clinton denying he had an affair, and Starr using the
full weight of the Federal Government to prove he did, the president
is open to civil suits (and I can guarantee that the next president
will have to defend several); cannot discuss anything in front of
the White House staff or even the Secret Service without the
possibility that they will have to testify to it in court; and is 
subject to impeachment whenever most of the members of the majority
party in the House don't like or trust him.
     Clinton said, in effect, "It's nobody's concern but the two
people directly involved."  Starr said, in effect, "He is unworthy
to be president," and it went from there.
     Note in your last paragraph above you say that Clinton 
considers that he is "special" under the law, and that the court
erred by saying he is not "special."
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From: Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@netcom17.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Gun Control in LA? NO WAY!
Date: 1999/08/22
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