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Article #2833Re: Pacific Bell Internet Hell
From: D.A. Hacker
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 00:00
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Rick Ellis wrote:
>
> A quick look at Dejanews will show anyone what this slimeball got
> his Pacbell account revoked for. He posted yet another variation
> of the illegal chain letter scam. It's amazing how he can scream
> so loud about Pacbell's injustice when he could be facing much worse:
> a fine and or jail!
So true! Not only did he "retool" the chail-letter/pyramid scam and try
to pass it off as legal, BUT -- take a look at these two excerpts from
the original spam:
-- from the instructions
> 2. Order 100 or 200 names of lottery players, send order
> to:
> Computech Mgmt., Inc., 12626 Bellflower Blvd., # 113,
> Downey, CA 90242. Remember for the absolute best
> results use only these names !! You will be glad you
> did!! 100 names are only $ 10, and 200 names are
> only $ 18. These come on self-stick, ready to mail labels.
> You can also buy larger quantities of these names direct
> from the mailing list company: Advon Distributors. Their
> phone number is (800) 992-3866.
-- from the mailing list
> 5. Rand Eichert
> 12626 Bellflower Blvd. # 113
> Downey, Ca 90242
Not only is he scamming for lotto tickets, but selling mailing lists for
the express purpose of being used to propogate the chain/pyramid.
On another note: due to a problem with PacBell's newsfeed, I missed a
reply from our pal Randy that turned up on Deja News when I retrieved
the spam to quote above...
> Your response came from with PacBell NewsServer, however you are using
> a fraudulant name/address, the very same thing that you crapped on me
> for! What a crock!
Eh? You posted my signature block, but somehow didn't read it -- I put
addresses in my headers and .sig that cause junk-mail 'bots to
automatically e-mail the "make money fast" crowd and other scam artist's
crap directly to the law enforcement and consumer protection agencies
that police such things. The one I'm using now "reflects" to the e-mail
administrator of the ISP mail is posted from. This is rapidly becoming
standard practice on the 'net as junk e-mail floods the system.
My e-mail address is provided in my .sig -- I'm not hiding anything.
Nowhere have I claimed to be an officer of the law or a PacBell rep.
> I had never had even one slight warning, notice or mention that I had
> done anything wrong with that single Usenet "re-posting"....an article
> that originated on the Net ! There was no intent on my part to do
> anything or cause any harm,
Your claim that you issued only one repost of an existing thread seems
patently false -- the stats from DejaNews and the fact that you are also
promoting a mailing list for sale in the same spam (see above) clearly
indicate that you originated this. The first four names on your list
appear *only* in your chain letter, there are no matches in any other
usenet article archived anywhere that I can find. Are they all just mail
drops for yourself? As for "no warning" -- did you ever read the
"acceptable use policy" you agreed to (and were advised to read during
registration) when you signed up for the service?
> R. Eichert Ph.D.
-= FLAME ON! =-
Assuming that the PhD you claim to have didn't come out of a CrackerJack
box, it's painfully obvious that it is in neither computer science nor
ethics. I noticed that your earlier posts came from the CalState
University computer system. Thus far, your name has not turned up in any
of the campus faculty lookup servers, therefore I must assume that you
have been determined by your peers to be insufficiently competent to
teach. And to think that I was beginning to lose faith in California's
educational system...
--
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### READ ME FIRST!! ###
## fake addresses in header and below for usenet-scanning sp#mbots ##
## replace with real address if replying via e-mail ##
++ nfic@internetmci.com | Donald A. Hacker
S_P_#_M ++ customer@email.usps.gov | -that's-
J_A_M ++ pyramid@ftc.gov | dhacker at
++ postmaster@[127.0.0.1] | pacbell 'dot' net
++ remote-printer.this-is-a-junk-fax-so-sue-me@14043474725.iddd.tpc.int
I don't like junk mail. I forward all evidence of possible fraud to the
National Fraud Info Center, USPS, FDA, FTC and others as I see fit, to
include faxes of your web pages. I reserve the right to post any mail
sent to me publicly. You have been warned.
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