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Article #2945Re: SF Valley Secession?
From: Charles P. Hobbs
Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:00
Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:00
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musashi@dimensional.com (Harry Langford) wrote: >Charles P. Hobbs (transit@primenet.com) wrote: >: djembe@sprynet.com (Mike Cohen) wrote: >: >: I'm suprised you can hear *anything* other than Country Western >: up there (and maybe a few militia talk shows). > > > > Yes, I remember when I had the same L.A.-concentric > ideas, too. The kind that only a Native with no > travel experience could have. I remember thinking, > before I moved to Idaho, that it would just be a bunch > of old, junky shacks, people in rags cowering the cold, > no jobs, etc. > > In the past three years, I've travelled around quite bit. > Salem, Seattle, Lewiston, Orlando, Dallas, Boise, Idaho > Falls, Pendleton, San Diego, SLC, Pittsburgh, Hartford, > got married in Virginia, Santa Fe, etc. There are an > *awful* lot of ex-Californians floating around. :) > > I gotta tell you, Charles, most of these are preferrable > to L.A. :) I've visited the Bay Area, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City,Seattle, San Diego, Portland, Vancouver, San Diego, and Chicago. Any of these places (well, maybe not Chicago, really), I'd consider moving to, if I had a job lined up. Preferable to LA? Maybe some things might be a bit nicer, but: * most, if not all of these places have bad neighborhoods, ethnic tensions, etc. as well. In Vancouver, they complain as much about new Chinese immigrants as we do about "illegal aliens" in LA, for example. * on the other hand, places that don't have significant minority popluations may not treat these people well, if they decide to relocate there". (Really wacko groups are usually in the small towns and outback, not in big cities like Boise, though). * most still haven't got much of a transit system, so you'll sit around on freeways a lot of the time getting from place to place. (It might look free flowing now, but as more Californians settle in these places, and take their 2.5 cars with them, you're going to notice it!" I could go on and on, but why? Find a place you like living in, but don't complain if there aren't "all the comforts of home there". We were talking about the limited radio choices in most parts of the country, away from the big cities and coasts. Most of the time, you'll get a rock station, a couple of country stations, at least one religious station, and a growing number of talk stations. And maybe NPR. In the rural South, you'll get soul and (maybe) gospel stations; out in Texas and New Mexico, there may be lots of Spanish stations. I'm not joking, I've travelled and know what's out there.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,f1c0e658cdfceb7c X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 104eff,d8da161c327d59e8 X-Google-Attributes: gid104eff,public X-Google-Thread: 10a942,f1c0e658cdfceb7c X-Google-Attributes: gid10a942,public X-Google-Thread: 1123cb,f1c0e658cdfceb7c X-Google-Attributes: gid1123cb,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,f1c0e658cdfceb7c X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public From: "Charles P. Hobbs" <transit@primenet.com> Subject: Re: SF Valley Secession? Date: 1996/05/12 Message-ID: <4n5o8e$51o@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> X-Deja-AN: 154487181 sender: root@primenet.com references: <MHigby.2696.16A5B2D0@Primenet.com> <mcaldon-1904962332110001@la-dial1-22.wavenet.com> <MHigby.2722.1371408A@Primenet.com> <4lp0bh$7dj@betty.bway.net> <4lp6nh$2j8@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4m2j3q$rpb@betty.bway.net> <4m6dlc$c9p@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <isis-0105962042580001@news.sprynet.com> <4mebfp$meb@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <ADB26C299668CAE1F@ad06-059.compuserve.com> <4mopdd$lv7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4mrec1$jbt@nova.dimensional.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Primenet Services for the Internet x-url: news:4mrec1$jbt@nova.dimensional.com mime-version: 1.0 x-posted-by: ip239.lax.primenet.com newsgroups: la.general,la.news,ca.general,alt.california,ca.politics x-mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K)