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Article #2981Re: Ventura Blvd. Subway vs. Burbank Branch
From: Mark Jolles
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 00:00
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tlw@Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Wetzel) wrote: > > >--- >Michael Higby writes: >[..] >>And yes, it should run the entire length of the line from Burbank Metrolink to >>Chatsworth Metrolink. > >The most recent plan doesn't follow this idea; it swings off at Canoga Ave. >to serve Warner Center and Woodland Hills. This is probably a better generator >of traffic than running up the SP r-o-w to Chatsworth, given the concentration >of offices in Warner Center. > >>And it should be planned by planners who worked back >>east and know how to do it the right way. East Coast planners think >>about neighborhood features, attractions, etc. when planning stops, as opposed >>to LA planners who only think about what local politicians want (see >>yesterday's LA Times). > >The problem is not the particular people employed by planning agencies. >Planners everywhere lack the ultimate say. The particular configuration >of political forces in a given area will determine this. Real estate >developers have been the dominant economic and political force in Southern >California since the late 19th century. Unless you have strong popular >organization, and a developed sense of community (historically weak in >Southern California due to the high proportion of people in a given >area who are new there at any given time), the ongoing and well-heeled >organization of the major businesses and property interests will tend >to get what they want. > >Tom Wetzel >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >thomas.wetzel@eng.sun.com > > They may get what they want in the short term but they got a lot of congestion and a big mess in L.A. long term and that doesn't help the value of anybody's development. I think the locals need higher standards and a better understanding of what investments will work and which don't. They've been sold freeways in Southern California for the last 20 years on the premise that they will relieve congestion. I don't think that it worked too well. On the east coast I think it is the citizens who try to assure that things are planned properly. L.A. is so transient that I guess nobody cares. It appears that they haven't cared themselves into gridlock with no viable options and a damn ugly city. The planners seem pretty spacey down there also.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,38a2961ff1b78c88 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 1123cb,38a2961ff1b78c88 X-Google-Attributes: gid1123cb,public X-Google-Thread: 10a942,38a2961ff1b78c88 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a942,public X-Google-Thread: 10ca13,38a2961ff1b78c88 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ca13,public X-Google-Thread: f59f9,38a2961ff1b78c88 X-Google-Attributes: gidf59f9,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,38a2961ff1b78c88 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public From: Mark Jolles <Jollesm> Subject: Re: Ventura Blvd. Subway vs. Burbank Branch Date: 1996/05/01 Message-ID: <4m8o3m$arm@romeo.logica.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 152473068 references: <MHigby.2730.0431F13B@Primenet.com> <4m87n7$3bh@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> to: tlw@Eng.Sun.COM content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Logica Inc. mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: la.general,misc.transport.urban-transit,la.news,la.transportation,alt.california,ca.general x-mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit)