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" krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote in message 
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> "pitchforks and torches" <ShrubImprisoned@theHague.com> wrote in message 
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>>>>>> We are NOT seeing reports of US troops falling dead from exposure to 
>>>>>> chemweapons used as IEDs.
>>>>>> Thus, there are no QUITE LETHAL chemical weapons left to weaponise 
>>>>>> and use.
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>>>>> They would be lethal if fired. They are inert until then.
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>>>> I wonder how insurgents would get their hams on a GHN-45 (155mm 
>>>> howitzer), and why no-one would notice them dragging it through the 
>>>> streets (most of Iraqs gun tractors had been withdrawn in an attempt to 
>>>> re-supply the front line troops during the Iraq/Iran war, and then they 
>>>> were unable to withdraw under fire. Immobile and unsupported the 
>>>> majority of the guns were destroyed at their positions either by air 
>>>> strikes or counter-battery fire.).
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>>>    The issue is NOT "insurgents" getting them.
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>> No. The issue was the existance of WMDs found after the illegal invasion
>> Nobody killed by WMDs = No WMDs.
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>    Bullshit reasoning. Really guy. It's dumbasses like you who will extend 
> republican rule in the US.

Truly - not my intent. I want to see all the fascists fail. Really....you 
too.
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>>>The "insurgents" (read IRANIANS and Syrians etc) were not running Iraq in 
>>>2003.
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>> No, "insurgents", in this context = Iraqis fighting the illegal invasion 
>> of  their sovereign nation by
>> American troops.
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>    It was perfectly legal.

If you are willing to trash international law, laws that by our Constitution 
we are bound to, yes.
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>>>> And then there's the little issue of a propellant change ( bag type or 
>>>> MACS ).
>>>> You don't find this stuff lyin' around, unless you fail to secure the 
>>>> ammo dumps and rush to protect the Oil Ministry.
>>>
>>>> You're now WAY out in left field ( bleachers, nosebleed section ) in 
>>>> your attempt to bolster a specious argument.
>>>> Why don't you stick to cheerleading the cheerleader ( Mike ) who is 
>>>> busy cheering for the Cheerleader-in-Chief.
>>>
>>>    Actually Saddam's army had those things in 2003. TRY to pull your 
>>> head out of your ass and deal with WHEN the statements about WMD were 
>>> made in
>> 2003
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>> How about pulling your head out of your ass, then climb outa Mikes ass, 
>> and then try to understand that we are discussing WMDs that never 
>> existed, except in the ShrubCo attempt to cow you into a quivering state 
>> of fearful, unthinking, "patriotic" acquiescence to the PNAC plan to pimp 
>> out the oily countries to his Oil bidness partners. M'Kay?
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>    You are simply nuts. At one time ALL of the WMD's discussed had existed 
> in Iraq.

'Mushroom cloud WMDs' ( ala Condi )? None. Zip. Didn't exsist. Doncha 
believe he would have used them to defend his country against our illegal 
invasion? Hmmmm? And none have shown up, so a thinking man must come to the 
conclusion that Saddam had NO WMDs.

As to chemical ( and Biological ) weapons and munitions we helped our Saddam 
to score whilst we turned a blind eye to as he used them?
Hint: they don't seem to fall into the WMD catagory. Not enough 
death-dealing impact to rise to the staus of WMDs. Not like the ones we, 
Israel, Pakistan, India, France, China, England, and Russia possess.


Iraq was frustrating the UN inspectors. Some of the WMD were
> discovered at the end of the most recent war.

No, some rusty, degraded, long lost 155mm Chemical shells from the 80's ( 
with short shelf-life ) were, but no WMDs were ever found, or it would have 
been SHOUTED at the top  of the Cheer-leader-in-Chiefs lungs during his 
Mission Accomplished stunt. Trust me on that...Shrub would NOT let us forget 
his bravery in personnally capturing the WMDs cited as the casus belli of 
the illegal invasion of sovereign Iraqi soil.

But the FACT remains that the
> Hussein government USED WMD's on several occasions.

Nope. Chemical weapons were used, but not big-boom WMDs. Shrub wouldn't have 
let that pass without bellicose strutting and preaning.

 Had Hussein cooperated
> with the UN there would have been NO invasion.

Had this maladministration not lied to you, me, and the world, there would 
have been NO illegal invasion either.


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