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<pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:17:43 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy"
> <NoSpam@Ham.com> wrote:
>
> >"Susan Hogarth" <sjh@tribeagles.org> wrote
> >
> >> You've put your finger on the problem. Why should the taxpayers pay for
> >*your*
> >> no trespassing sign? That's between you and the phone company you do
> >business
> >> with.
>
> No, it's not.  No more than the no trepassing sign in my yard,
> which carries weight and effect only because it's backed up by
> criminal penalties enforced by the government.

That's an irrelevant bonus of a legal system.  Your unlisted phone
number contract would also be enforcable by the government.
Tresspass sometimes gets legislated, but usually is a common
law matter just like simple contracts.  (Durham still uses common
law trespass, fwiw).

But, even Common Law treats tresspass much differently than
contract issues.  Contracts are civil, you owe *damages* in
monetary form.  Physical tresspass is criminal.

> >The funny part is that all these allegedly pissed-off
> >people can't be bothered to call the phone company
> >and bitch about this once a month.  If everyone did
> >that, the phone company would have strong incentive
> >to do something about it.
>
> They wouldn't do a thing and you know it.

No, I don't know it.  The costs in dealing with it would be real.

> And they couldn't, legally, anyway.

They already offer quite a few services to deal with it.

> >Every now and then around here, new management
> >at a local TV station makes the mistake of cutting
> >away from a local ACC basketball game.  Consumer
> >reaction is swift and furious, the problem is quickly
> >fixed, and profuse apologies are offered the next day.
>
> Irrelevant analogy.  That is a company changing its own
> actions based on customer input, which is very different from asking
> them to change someone else's actions, which they do not control.

I'm sorry if you can't understand that phone companies make
money by offering various services to potential customers,
and they need to have a good idea who wants what (and
what is more profitable, of course).

Yeah, you might have to pay for it.  Boo-hoo...that's better
than me paying for it.

--Ted