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Article #3474Re: The telemarketing solution no one sees
From: wdukes
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:10
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:10
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In article <bl22hs$d4f$1@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu>, Edward M. Kennedy wrote: > ><pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message > news:git8nv0jbpdpe6rqhkddosubguh23vnj91@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:17:54 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy" >> <NoSpam@Ham.com> wrote: >> >> > >> ><pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message >> >news:02n8nv806147saaks9rvdjqsmbbrg067p8@4ax.com... >> >> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:17:43 -0400, "Edward M. Kennedy" >> >> <NoSpam@Ham.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >"Susan Hogarth" <sjh@tribeagles.org> wrote >> >> > >> >> >> You've put your finger on the problem. Why should the taxpayers pay > for >> >> >*your* >> >> >> no trespassing sign? That's between you and the phone company you do >> >> >business >> >> >> with. >> >> >> >> No, it's not. No more than the no trepassing sign in my yard, >> >> which carries weight and effect only because it's backed up by >> >> criminal penalties enforced by the government. >> > >> >That's an irrelevant bonus of a legal system. Your unlisted phone >> >number contract would also be enforcable by the government. >> >> Not under any existing law. > > Have you even *heard* of Common Law and/or have any > clue that torts and contracts are still covered by it in the > absence of legislation? > Now Ted don't get your shorts in a wad. You are trying to teach a pig to sing (teach paulie anything). It only wastes your time and irritates paulie. Chuckle. I got a real laugh when he called you a liberal. I just firgured out he puts that label on anyone who taxes his braincells and makes him think (or try to think). Sigh. >> Which is why we need a new law. >> One that does not deprive me of the right to have a listed phone > > You have a right to not be called at home by people you > don't know??? You are arguing you are entitled to something, > which is the perverse leftist sense of right. I'm using the old > sense of the word, the right to act (which includes the right to own). > >> number, just as the law that enforces the No Trespassing sign does not >> deprive me of the right to have an address. > > The trespassing sign costs money. So does an unlisted number > and other services. Plus you keep confusing ownership of > property with subscribing to SOMEONE ELSE'S SERVICE. > > If you want the rough equivalent of a no tresspassing sign for > your phone, that's your problem, not mine. One way to do > this is to convince phone comapanies that all contracts should > have no telemarketing clause, under penalty of X. Then the > phone company could make money suing telemarketers. > >> You are saying that all I have to do to get rid of salesmen >> knocking on the door is not have an address, or a driveway. That's >> incredibly stupid. > > Which is why I didn't say it. > > --Ted > > -- Wes Dukes (wdukes.pobox@com) Swap the . and the @ to email me please. spam@www.spam.com is a garbage address.
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