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The Pervert wrote:
> 
> A fetus is alive but not a human being per se.  It may become
> one in time, but it is not one from the moment of conception.  That is
> my belief with just as much validity as yours.  I am entitled to it much
> as you are entitled to yours.
> 
OK. So when does one become a human being?  Please don't duck this
question,
I'm intensly interested in your opinion.
> 
> Not having an organized religious affiliation not not prevent one from
> having a moral, religious, or spiritual side.  I, myself, have no
> religious affiliation, 
> 
But in a previous post you said, ".. my religion does not
believe in hell as they see it."
> 
> I believe in freedom of choice, especially a legal choice in this free
> country.  You are anti-free choice and anti-free throught.  I consider
> that offensive and dangerously un-American.
> 
Abortion is not about choice, it's about killing.
> 
>.. Just as I object to compelling another
> person into involutary servitude, so too do I object to your compelling
> people to your particular concept of morality.   I believe that your attempt to impose > your presumed
> moralistic will on others runs contrary to the basic precepts of this
> country and is dangerous to American society.  I find you objectionable
> and your views destructive to the country.
> 
I never tried to compel anyone to do or believe anything.  This is
another
presumption of yours.  You attack me only because I differ with you.
In fact, my wife of 21 years is pro-choice.  At one time in her life
(before
we met) she had an abortion.  After we married she became pregnant and
asked
me what I wanted her to do, carry or abort.  I told her in no uncertain
terms
what my views on abortion were but in the end the decision was hers.  I
would 
say the same to anyone.  However I believe I have the right to
demonstrate in
front of an abortion clinic (or anywhere) to convince people that the
perfectly
legal procedure of killing their fetus is wrong.  I claim this right in
the 
name of the First Amendment no matter what the Supreme Court says. 
They've
been wrong before.  I kneel before no God and I kneel before no law.  I
live
by my own moral code.  Laws were made to serve men, not the other way
around.
Your preaching the law to me sounds no different than the fundies
preaching
the gospel.  I guess I'm more of an independant thinker than you.
And since you saw fit to tell me about your political beliefs (as if I
cared) let me say that I consider myself a Liberal, although not of the 
knee-jerk variety.  On obstructive tactics by pro-lifers I'd like to
paraphrase a good Republican whom I once admired.
"Extremism in the defense of decency is no vice."  

Bill D.