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Article #432Re: Will the scientific community ever speak up?
From: Wayne Scharf
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:00
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In article <DBtLGB.vw.0.queen@torfree.net>, Bob Allisat <ab330@torfree.net> wrote: >Ian Sutherland (ian@eecs.nwu.edu) wrote: >: Are you saying that _any_ time _any_ species is suffering >: in _any_ way from the actions of humans, that humans should >: change what they're doing so as not to have _any_ effect on >: the species in question? If so, you do the cause of >: environmentalism no good. Such a position will _never_ >: become public policy. Why not fight for things which have >: a chance of winning? Otherwise, you're just wasting your >: energy and time and accomplishing nothing. > > > I don't know what anyone elses goals are. Great > My goals are specifically and permanently Auk > to weld the idea that human activities > cannot effect any species negatively into Dodo > public policy - permanently. > Passenger > If Sutherland's fatalistic idea is our Pigeon > future then there is no hope any of the > endangered or threatened species will Mountain > survive much longer. Gorrilla > > I still have hope that humanity is not Atlantic > totally suicidal. We must preserve the Cod > other animals and ecosystems on this > planet at all costs. Without them we Chinnook > cannot survive ourselves. Salmon > > Bob Allisat Humanity > We are probably all on the Magickal Milk Train to Disaster for the simple reason that every minute there is a new greedy, grasping, rapacious, self-serving, immoral, dog-bone stupid fool born...and since a constant percentage of them will be dumber than a box of rocks, you won't be able to educate, cajol, punish, or incarcerate them fast enough to prevent them from causing entropy from having its way...especially if they become "Captains of Industry". The only probable eco-solution? Maybe at some point AIDS will mutate so it can be carried by mosquitos...whatever the outcome, the choice will likely not be ours... -- NATRON@KAIWAN.COM Silverado
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,e5bfca76b8e74f05,start X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 10e1e4,e5bfca76b8e74f05,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10e1e4,public X-Google-Thread: f824f,e5bfca76b8e74f05,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf824f,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,e5bfca76b8e74f05,start X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,e5bfca76b8e74f05,start X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public From: natron@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Wayne Scharf) Subject: Re: Will the scientific community ever speak up? Date: 1995/07/18 Message-ID: <3ugqfq$46c@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> X-Deja-AN: 106477020 references: <3sug47$cuo@centauri.hq.nasa.gov> <3u940t$l4v@lehua.ilhawaii.net> <3u957e$48i@news.eecs.nwu.edu> <DBtLGB.vw.0.queen@torfree.net> organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) newsgroups: la.general,ca.general,dc.general,ba.general,atl.general