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Article #476Re: FALSE THINKING ON IMMIGRATION
From: Will
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 01:15
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 01:15
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Sean McGraw <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message news:<DSV7BJ2K37378.7264814815@anonymous.poster>... > FALSE THINKING ON IMMIGRATION- > -IT'S NOT CHICKEN SOUP > IF THE RECIPE IS CHANGED > by H. Millard (c) 2002 > > Jonah Goldberg, the editor of National Review Online, had an > immigration column in the Los Angeles Times on Sunday, Feb. 24, > entitled "Ideologues Have Hijacked an Important Debate." > > The column attempts to persuade readers: 1) that the immigration > debate should be focused on whether immigrants are legal or illegal, > 2) that race should not be part of the debate, and 3) those who make > race part of the debate are ideologues (read, evil racists). Ho hum, > yawn. Goldberg also writes of his dismay at the creation of "identity > politics for white people." > > The first point is the usual PC distracter that intentionally or > unintentionally sets up those who accept it for a fall that will come > with the stroke of a pen if President Bush decides to make all > illegals, legal. If that happens, will those who argue that > immigrants are good or bad for America, based on whether the > immigrants are legal or illegal, be happy? If so, then such people > don't understand the real reason that present massive immigration is > destroying America. > > The third point should just be laughed at and dismissed without > comment, by conscious white people who might want to consider the > source. > > The second point, though, is worth discussing at length, because it > is an argument that others also keep trying to make, and it needs to > be deconstructed. Saying that race should not be part of the debate > on our current massive Third World immigration is just more of the > silly attempt to make people think that the important characteristic > of immigrants is the term "immigrants," itself. It fallaciously lumps > all immigrants together as though they are all the same people: > immigrants. That's a little like lumping all dogs together as dogs > and thereafter deciding that you're going to enter your poodle in a > race against a greyhound because poodles and greyhounds are both dogs > and thus, in your mind at least, the same. Unfortunately, versions of > this argument are made so often in post-American America that many > otherwise intelligent people calmly accept them as gospel, and > respond with something like, "We're a nation of immigrants." > Actually, EVERY nation is a nation of immigrants, but I've written > about that in other columns, so I'll leave it at that for now. > > In an emotional attempt to convince people of the correctness of his > positions, Goldberg fills his column with the usual dark innuendoes > and nonsense that we've come to expect from liberals and certain PC > conservatives. Thus, V-Dare, a website that takes immigration reform > positions, is called "shrill," by Goldberg. And, some of those who > write on immigration issues are, according to Goldberg, "hiding out > in their bunkers." > > It appears that Goldberg believes the major hijacker of the > immigration debate is Pat Buchanan, whose book, "The Death of the > West" says what many of us have been saying and writing for years > about immigration and about the genocide of white people. > > Goldberg also rails against whites finding their identity in their > race, and he writes "[M]any white folks have come to buy into the > tribal logic of Afrocentrists, feminists, La Raza fanatics and the > like." Interesting comment from a guy who leads into his attacks on > Buchanan (who in this instance is simply a stand-in for all whites > who may have similar thoughts) by making cute and telling readers > that he first met Buchanan when Buchanan attended Goldberg's bris > when the latter was eight days old. > > As readers may know, the bris is a ritual circumcision performed on > Jewish boys. Many people consider this genital mutilation of young > boys a tribal ritual par excellence. One wonders, given Goldberg's > whine against the tribalism of others, whether he simply put this > information about his own tribalism in his column subconsciously or > whether (and we jest) the Mohel had palsy and Goldberg is now > something of a mental castrato incapable of understanding how > hypocritical his comments seem to those who have some understanding > of these things. > > Goldberg writes that Buchanan's "The Death of the West," "warns > hysterically that the white race is becoming an 'endangered species,' > about to be swallowed up by the duskier Third World (defined as all > non-whites no matter how rich, educated or democratic)." Such a > sentence speaks volumes about Goldberg and his lack of understanding > of the issues involved in the present Third World immigration > invasion. The reality is that whites truly are becoming an > 'endangered species.' Whites are only about 10% of the world's human > population and with their declining birth rates, their increasingly > high intermarriage rates, the high birth rates of many Third World > people, and mass transportation that is bringing millions of Third > Worlders to the First World, hysterics are in order. Perhaps, if > various American Indian tribes had gotten hysterical they wouldn't > have become extinct. > > Also, what are we to make of Goldberg's lapse of logic when he writes > that Buchanan refers to the Third World "as all non-whites no mater > how rich, educated or democratic"? What does "rich," "educated" or > "democratic" have to do with whether one is a Third Worlder or not? > Perhaps Goldberg gets this all mixed up in his mind because he is > prejudiced against considering that genes are important and thus he > can't understand that the Third World, which is often identified as > poor, uneducated and undemocratic is so, not because of these > characteristics themselves, but because of the genes of the people in > those Third World nations. What Goldberg doesn't want to say is that > virtually all of the Third World has one more characteristic: it is > non-white. > > Goldberg also writes the following outrageous sentence, "[W]e need to > respond to the fact that the president of Mexico is developing > political constituencies on both sides of the border. This would be > troubling if Mexico were as white as Canada." > > Goldberg doesn't tell readers why, in his opinion, it would be > troubling if Mexico were as white as Canada, but when his column is > taken as a whole, one might be excused for getting the impression > that Goldberg is not a big fan of non-Jewish white people. There's a > further indication of this in Goldberg's comments about Russian > Vladimir V. Zhirinovsky who Goldberg indicates was "totally off his > rocker when he introduced a bill in the Duma denying Russian women > the right to leave the country and permitting ethnic Russian men to > marry up to five wives." The reality is that Russia has a low > birthrate--the nation is getting old and dying--and Zhirinovsky's > bill would have helped increase the birthrate. This is a good thing > for dying nations and peoples. It stops them from becoming extinct. > > By rejecting the reality of genes and those combinations of genes > that result in distinct races of humans, Goldberg banishes himself to > the same "environment is everything" intellectual dead end inhabited > by so many liberals. By not accepting the truth of nature of the > importance of genes to the way every living thing IS, and in what > every living thing DOES, one is thereafter left wandering in a PC > wilderness wondering why people are as they are and why some nations > are good places to live and others aren't. Such thinking is similar > to what liberals do all the time with their nature vs. nurture > arguments in which they attempt to show that race doesn't matter. All > black basketball teams? To the liberals and certain aracial > conservatives, the reason can't be because blacks have some > genetically determined racial advantage in the sport, but because of > environment. One liberal once told me that blacks did better in > sports requiring foot speed because as kids they were chased by > racist white cops. I'm serious. > > Goldberg, then gives us this tough guy command (Whether this is sung > in soprano, or sneered like a member of the TV mob family the > Sopranos--isn't clear--but in either case it's laughable), "Race > isn't the point (about immigration), so drop it. Now." Sorry, Mr. > Goldberg, race is the point, and many of us are not going to drop it. > Ever. Let me tell you why we won't drop it. > > A physical nation can be compared to a soup pot. The character of the > soup in the pot doesn't depend on the pot, but on what you put in the > pot, usually according to a recipe. Deviate from that recipe and > you'll end up with a different soup, even though the pot is the same. > It's about proportions of ingredients. Chicken soup requires a > predominance of chicken. Change the proportions in the soup and > you'll end up with something else. That's what's happening with > America today. We're ending up with something else. And this > something else can be seen in our violent crime rates, our declining > quality of life, our growing homeless population and much more. > America is being transformed into a Third World nation by the Third > Worlders who made their old Third World nations the places that > wanted to flee. > > The recipe that made America great, contained a far greater > percentage of white people in the pot than are in the pot today. > That's not opinion. It's a fact. Yet, many people don't want to face > that fact. America was a new Europe--it was peopled and built by some > of the genetically boldest Europeans who were unchained from > centuries of European tradition and whose genes sent them forth to a > new land. Over the years, other non-Europeans came to these shores, > but their numbers were small enough so that they constituted the > spice in the recipe, not the dominant ingredients. With massive Third > World immigration that is changing. The spice is now overwhelming the > other ingredients. > > Many of these aracial people who want to deny the reality of race and > genes will talk about blood lines of race horses or pedigrees of dogs > and cats or even of growing certain varieties of flowers, yet they > seem oblivious that all of these things involve genes, and that these > living things are as they are because of their genes. However, when > some of these very same people talk about humans, they seem to > believe that genes don't matter. > > All immigrants are not the same. We, as a nation, need to let in > those we want to let in, and keep out those we want to keep out. Does > this involve selecting people we want to let in based on genetic > considerations? You bet it does. Genes are the most important element > in all of life. It's time we started preserving the recipe for > America that works. > > # # # > > http://www.newnation.org/Millard/Millard-its-not-chicken-soup.html Ahh, what else would you expect from a Mr. Goldberg? Great statement, "Genes are the most important element in all of life." Will
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