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From: Jonathan Goff
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 05:46
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 05:46
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You could take CA-2 from La Canada-Flintridge to Wrightwood. Or CA-2 then to N-3 to Palmdale. "Larry Scholnick" <Larry_Scholnick@Yahoo.Com> wrote in message news:z9nwc.80135$gG2.2932@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com... > There are a limited number of freeway routes out of the Los Angeles > metropolitan area: > > US-101 (northwest), I-5 (north), CA-14 (north), I-15 (northeast), I-10 > (east), I-15 (south), and I-5 (south). > > Most of these routes have one or more 'choke points'; points where if there > were a freeway closure, there would be no nearby alternate routes available. > > * US-101: About 1 mile northwest of CA-33. > Nearest Alternative north: CA-33 north to CA-150 west. > Nearest Alternative south: Swim! > > * I-5 north: From Fort Tejon to Grapevine, CA. > Nearest Alternative west: Frazier Mountain Park Rd to Mil Potrero Hwy > through Pine Mountain Club to Cerro Noroeste to CA-166/CA-33 to Maricopa, > then east on CA-166. > Nearest Alternative east: CA-138 to 90th St West to Tehachapi-Willow Springs > Rd, then west on CA-58. > > I-5 north: north of Templin Hwy: > Nearest Alternative west: CA-126 to US-101 to CA-33 to CA-166. > Nearest Alternative east: Lake Hughes Rd to Pine Canyon Rd/County N-2 to > Three Points Rd to CA-138. > > * CA-14: No choke point; Sierra Hwy is intact into Kern County, with > numerous nearby alternates. However, a big enough earthquake could close > the entire Newhall Pass (I-5/CA-14/San Fernando Rd/Foothill Blvd): > Nearest Alternative west: CA-118 to CA-23 to CA-126. > Nearest Alternative east: I-210 to Osborne St to Little Tujunga Canyon Rd, > then either Sand Canyon Rd or Placerita Canyon Rd to CA-14. > > * I-15 north: Just south of CA-138 in Cajon Pass. > Nearest alternative east: Rim of the World Hwy (CA-18) to Crestline, then > northwest on CA-138. > Nearest Alternative west: Lytle Creek Rd to Lone Pine Canyon Rd, then east > on CA-138. > > * I-10: Just west of CA-111 in San Gorgonio Pass. > Nearest Alternative north: CA-18 to Lucerne Valley, then CA-247 (Old Woman > Springs Rd) to Yucca Valley, then CA-62 (either west to I-10 or east to > CA-177 to I-10). > Nearest Alternative south: CA 79 to Hemet (or CA-243 through Idyllwild), > then CA-74 to Palm Desert. > > * I-15 south: No real choke point; Temescal Cyn (old CA-71) or Old Hwy 395 > are available at key points, with numerous nearby alternates in the Temecula > area and in San Diego county. Plus, I-215 is available as an alternate to > I-15 anywhere between Murietta and Devore. > > * I-5 south: At Camp Pendleton (why do you think they placed the Border > Patrol station here?) > Nearest Alternative east: CA-74/Ortega Hwy to I-15 to CA-76 or CA-78. > Nearest Alternative west: Swim! > > * CA-91: At the Orange county/Riverside county line at Green River > (admittedly, this is still within the L.A. basin, but the lack of alternates > makes it worth listing): > Nearest Alternative north: CA-90 to Valencia Ave to Carbon Cyn/CA-142 to > CA-71. > Nearest Alternative south: I-5 south to Ortega Hwy/CA-74. > > My point is to remind us how vulnerable most of our key transportation > routes are. Some of these alternates take more than two hours to drive, > even without the load of traffic that would be forced to use the route in > the event of a freeway closure. If we ever have to evacuate Los Angeles (I > know, it would never happen--I've been watching too many junk TV movies, > such as NBC's 10.5 ), we would all be in deep trouble. > > And how did we get this way? Caltrans eliminated (paved over) key portions > of the earlier routes (such as the Old Ridge Route and the Golden State Hwy) > in the process of building our current freeways. > >
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