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Re: Lack of alternate routes

#1983
From: Jonathan Goff
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 05:46
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You could take CA-2 from La Canada-Flintridge to Wrightwood. Or CA-2 then to
N-3 to Palmdale.


"Larry Scholnick" <Larry_Scholnick@Yahoo.Com> wrote in message
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> There are a limited number of  freeway routes out of the Los Angeles
> metropolitan area:
>
> US-101 (northwest),  I-5 (north), CA-14 (north),  I-15 (northeast), I-10
> (east), I-15 (south), and I-5 (south).
>
> Most of these routes have one or more 'choke points'; points where if
there
> were a freeway closure, there would be no nearby alternate routes
available.
>
> * US-101: About 1 mile northwest of CA-33.
> Nearest Alternative north: CA-33 north to CA-150 west.
> Nearest Alternative south: Swim!
>
> * I-5 north: From Fort Tejon to Grapevine, CA.
> Nearest Alternative west:  Frazier Mountain Park Rd to Mil Potrero Hwy
> through Pine Mountain Club to Cerro Noroeste to CA-166/CA-33 to Maricopa,
> then east on CA-166.
> Nearest Alternative east: CA-138 to 90th St West to Tehachapi-Willow
Springs
> Rd, then west on CA-58.
>
> I-5 north: north of Templin Hwy:
> Nearest Alternative west: CA-126 to US-101 to CA-33 to CA-166.
> Nearest Alternative east: Lake Hughes Rd to Pine Canyon Rd/County N-2 to
> Three Points Rd to CA-138.
>
> * CA-14: No choke point; Sierra Hwy is intact into Kern County, with
> numerous nearby alternates.  However, a big enough earthquake could close
> the entire Newhall Pass (I-5/CA-14/San Fernando Rd/Foothill Blvd):
> Nearest Alternative west: CA-118 to CA-23 to CA-126.
> Nearest Alternative east: I-210 to Osborne St to Little Tujunga Canyon Rd,
> then either Sand Canyon Rd or Placerita Canyon Rd to CA-14.
>
> * I-15 north: Just south of CA-138 in Cajon Pass.
> Nearest alternative east: Rim of the World Hwy (CA-18) to Crestline, then
> northwest on CA-138.
> Nearest Alternative west: Lytle Creek Rd to Lone Pine Canyon Rd, then east
> on CA-138.
>
> * I-10: Just west of CA-111 in San Gorgonio Pass.
> Nearest Alternative north:  CA-18 to Lucerne Valley, then CA-247 (Old
Woman
> Springs Rd) to Yucca Valley, then CA-62 (either west to I-10 or east to
> CA-177 to I-10).
> Nearest Alternative south: CA 79 to Hemet (or CA-243 through Idyllwild),
> then CA-74 to Palm Desert.
>
> * I-15 south: No real choke point; Temescal Cyn (old CA-71) or Old Hwy 395
> are available at key points, with numerous nearby alternates in the
Temecula
> area and in San Diego county.  Plus, I-215 is available as an alternate to
> I-15 anywhere between Murietta and Devore.
>
> * I-5 south: At Camp Pendleton (why do you think they placed the Border
> Patrol station here?)
> Nearest Alternative east: CA-74/Ortega Hwy to I-15 to CA-76 or CA-78.
> Nearest Alternative west: Swim!
>
> * CA-91: At the Orange county/Riverside county line at Green River
> (admittedly, this is still within the L.A. basin, but the lack of
alternates
> makes it worth listing):
> Nearest Alternative north: CA-90 to Valencia Ave to Carbon Cyn/CA-142 to
> CA-71.
> Nearest Alternative south: I-5 south to Ortega Hwy/CA-74.
>
> My point is to remind us how vulnerable most of our key transportation
> routes are.  Some of these alternates take more than two hours to drive,
> even without the load of traffic that would be forced to use the route in
> the event of a freeway closure.  If we ever have to evacuate Los Angeles
(I
> know, it would never happen--I've been watching too many junk TV movies,
> such as NBC's 10.5 ), we would all be in deep trouble.
>
> And how did we get this way?  Caltrans eliminated (paved over) key
portions
> of the earlier routes (such as the Old Ridge Route and the Golden State
Hwy)
> in the process of building our current freeways.
>
>
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From: "Jonathan Goff" <jonathangoffathotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Lack of alternate routes
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 22:46:11 -0700
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