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Article #254Re: Commuting by train builds new friends and social contacts
From: Mr. Precision
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:50
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:50
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ill wrote: > Transit works. Highways may allow you to drive directly to a location > but is by far the least efficient way to move people around. Only during the rush hours. Trains and buses running on a schedule with few or no passengers significantly reduce the overall efficiency. It would be great to get everyone onto mass transit but it rarely goes when and where you need to. In reality it's pretty marginal these days between mass transit systems like rail and good cars. The best cars (small cars, Diesels and hybrids) are more efficient than rail which is why car pooling is quite important. From this http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/2003/ Efficiency of cars per passenger mile: http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/2003/html/table_04_22.html Buses http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/2003/html/table_04_24.html Amtrak (intercity rail) http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/2003/html/table_04_26.html The site doesn't seem to include stats for urban light and heavy rail however this one does: http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/efficiency/ee_ch5.htm And this chart puts it at around 3,000 btu/passenger mile, not far off the 3,600 for an average car. The car assumes the national average ridership of 1.2 passengers/car. http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/efficiency/eefig_ch5.htm#Figure%205.15 Overall... All of the existing transport methods suck in different circumstances, mass transit and private cars. The best I've come across is this: http://www.atsltd.co.uk/fact.html -- Colin Smith: Colin.Smith at archeus.plus.com
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