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Article #286Re: Downtown L.A. trolleys?
From: SlipperySlope
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 05:57
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 05:57
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BeHappy wrote: > One possible significant benefit of going with dusting off and sprucing up > the old Redcar Tunnel.. is for cultural value.. and in terms of economics.. > It could be a very significant tourist attraction(in addition to providing > additional public transit resources) The old redcar is a loved topic of > conversation among people that have rode on it. Bringing it back would be > like LA getting the "cable car of San Francisco". > You need to get past the "novelty brings in the viewers will overcome the costs"...... The cable-cars in S.F. *supposedly* lures in the crowds?.... BUT AT WHAT COST? I DARE someone to show me the "tax revenues" that the cable-cars have *supposedly* brought to San Francisco has outweighed the costs burdens to San Francisco/THE PUBLIC over the last 50 years PARTICULARLY FACTORING THE COSTS - CARRIED MAINLY BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT - OF THE *****MASSIVE REBUILDING***** OF THE MID-80S! THEN, someone please show me that the costs of operating them over the last several decades as a "quaint relic" has NOT costs San Francisco MORE than what these "quaint relics" has brought in revenue..."tourists revenue tax" OR OTHERWISE...... > > I think it would give people in LA something more to be proud of. It was sad > to hear about Angel's Flight railway disaster. I was saddened to hear about > that. > > "Tom Wetzel" <tlwetzel@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message > news:a8o5kl$f43$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net... > > > > rigg wrote in message ... > > >Rumor has it that during the Cold War, portions of the downtown tunnel > > >were used to store tons of crackers. In the event of a nuclear attack, > > >we'd all go into basement shelters and be treated to lots of saltines. > > > > > >Wouldn't going under the Bonaventure negate a very large portion of > > >the tunnel, since the grade required to duck under the lowest building > > >level would have to start waaay far away from the hotel itself? > > > > > > No, you'd only have to re-arrange some of the steel structural > > members in the Bonaveture subbasement. > > > > The real question is, Why do it? What would be the economic rationale > > for the cost? > > > > Tom Wetzel > > > >
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