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Article #307Re: FWD: Legislator Is Driven to Lift Limits on Carpool Lanes
From: John David Galt
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 06:09
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 06:09
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David desJardins wrote: > > John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> writes: > >> But the people who push for more freeways have always promised that their > >> new projects will cut congestion, and now you're saying they don't? > > > > They do, but the effect isn't permanent because population keeps growing. > > This will always be true, so it will always be necessary to keep building > > more freeways. And everybody knows it. > > Do you accept the premise that *some* highway construction projects do > actually increase total congestion? Either by inducing more new demand > than they can fulfill? Or by stimulating new demand in a place that is > poorly served? No. > The seems perfectly obvious to me. You can question how often this is > the case, but the concept should not be in dispute. I dispute it. All so-called "induced demand" is just pre-existing demand that was unmet before.
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