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Article #317Re: FWD: Legislator Is Driven to Lift Limits on Carpool Lanes
From: David desJardins
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:56
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:56
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Dave Close <dave@compata.com> writes:
> Still, there is something contradictory about allowing use of the HOV
> lanes by anyone at off-peak times. Those are, by definition, the times
> when you really don't need the extra capacity. And if you justify the
> opening by saying that unexpected congestion can happen at any time
> and deserves to be allieviated, then why shouldn't expected congestion
> during rush hour also deserve to be allieviated by opening the HOV
> lanes to all traffic?
The idea of the HOV lane is to create an incentive for people to
carpool. This is inherently more successful at rush hour than at other
times, because (1) that's when people go to and from work, and so have
the greatest opportunity to carpool, and (2) that's when congestion is
worst, and so the incentive is greatest.
Since "unexpected congestion" is unexpected, people can't be expected to
plan ahead for it and carpool. HOV restrictions at 3 am, with the idea
that people will join together in carpools at 3 am in case they hit some
"unexpected congestion", don't make sense, and can't work.
David desJardins
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