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Article #365Re: EDITORIAL: Californians say "Mass Transit" but still prefer to drive alone
From: Bill Zaumen
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:57
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:57
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In article <hgTg7.2535$m87.305101@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net>, Robert Cote <techscan@gte.net> wrote: > In article <3B83F362.B6858B08@but.us.chickens>, > David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote: > > This just in: empirical evidence (mainly from observations from 101 & 280 > > in Bay Area) confirms that yes, most cars are SOV: my guess would be 80%. > > There's a difference between empirical and anecdotal. Not suprising > that you'd mistake anecdote (which has value as anecdote) for > empirical (which delineates criteria for observations). For instance, > in this case a few factors that need to be considered: > [snip] For what it is worth, Caltrans occassionally does surveys to count the number of occupants in vehicles on freeways to measure the effectiveness of the carpool lanes. While this can't tell you you if the people in the carpool lane would be traveling together regardless, rather than specifically carpooling, David's estimate is reasonably consistent with the numbers I've seen from these studies (as reported a few years ago in the newspapers). -- As an anti-spam measure, my email address is only provided in a GIF file. Please see <http://home.pacbell.net/zaumen/email.gif>. Spammers can try mailto:s34s34@aol.com mailto:sdkj34s834kj@aol.com
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd3ff,70444480405ebd34 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3ff,public X-Google-Thread: f59f9,70444480405ebd34 X-Google-Attributes: gidf59f9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-22 23:54:20 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!netnews.com!newsfeed.nyc.globix.net!newsfeed.sjc.globix.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!206.13.28.183!nnrp5-w.sbc.net.POSTED!adsl-209-233-20-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net!user From: nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Zaumen) Newsgroups: la.transportation,ba.transportation Distribution: world Subject: Re: EDITORIAL: Californians say "Mass Transit" but still prefer to drive alone Message-ID: <nobody-2208012357120001@adsl-209-233-20-69.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <pLJf7.21445$ZM2.1941660@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <MojaveNC-1908010205240001@cm055.132.234.24.lvcm.com> <CJSf7.22499$ZM2.2016480@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3B80F20E.90AD1AAC@erols.com> <B7A7096E.51137%mmullen8014@home.com> <tmjg7.3927$Sa7.584216@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> <3B823A85.F347BD0B@erols.com> <mLtg7.490$Hw3.128310@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> <3B83940C.33E37CF3@erols.com> <koPg7.574$m87.128298@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> <3B83F362.B6858B08@but.us.chickens> <hgTg7.2535$m87.305101@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net> Lines: 29 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:57:12 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.233.20.69 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: nnrp5-w.sbc.net 998549660 209.233.20.69 (Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:54:20 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:54:20 PDT Organization: SBC Internet Services