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Re: Stacking freeways

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From: Vincent Valencio
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 05:02
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But why did you say they rebuilt it single deck now?  Why didn't they
keep it the way it was, it's like downgrading.  Nobody ever said
transportation would be 100% safe.  It never has and never will.  I
guess it's just a phobia people have of inclosed places when being on
the second deck of a double Decker freeway.  If things were done
correctly all freeways would be double deck with each direction of
traffic having it's own deck.  The best part about it is all the space
that is saved.  And Double deckers are so pretty.

What happened in that 89' quack?  On the learning channel they showed
a car sandwiched under the collapsed double Decker.  Flattened as thin
as paper.  How many were in that poor car?  They said they found the
car in Park mode.  Just like how we are taught to stay under the
doorway of a building during an earthquake because it is the strangest
part.  What happened to the people inside that squashed car?  It
looked like a Toyota camrey.  If a human body was indeed squashed
inside there, there aren't the tell tell signs like a puddle of blood.
 They said even the engine block was flattened as thin as paper.  How
could the bury a dead body that has been deformed at such a grand
scale?


"Robert Thomas Klein II" <sfviolinist99@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<ESEc7.47067$Kd7.27595765@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com>...
> Why did Caltrans rebuild that section of freeway as double deck? How did
> it hold up in the '89 quake? Also, how is it supposed to hold up in an
> earthquake in the future?
> 
> --
> 
> Robert Thomas Klein II
> 
> Email:  robertk (at) i.am
> 
> >"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message ...
> > "Paul S. Highland" wrote:
> >
> > > Vincent Valencio wrote:
> > >
> > > > What has happened to the double Decker freeway in San Francisco?  You
>  know the
> > > > one that has collapsed in the earthquake. Have they rebuilt it
>  stronger then before?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I believe all those structures were built in the 1950s with inadequate
> > > bracing.  While construction standards have improved vastly since then,
> > > many people might still have fears about double-deck structures being
> > > unsafe.
> >
> > I admit that I cringe every time I end up driving on the double-deck
> > portion of the 280 "extension", especially when I'm on the lower
> > (northbound) part. (I cringe a little less driving on the Bay Bridge.)
> >
> > --
> > after the crash, there will be fewer resources, fewer products, less
> > advertising... and fewer designers. there will be no more sumptuous
> > coffee table annuals, no more mass-mailings on creamy paper inviting
> > members to attend gala events in distant cities. phone messages will
> > be left unanswered, email unreturned, websites unsurfed. there will
> > be less paper and more trees, fewer cars and more walkers, less airtime
> > and more air. people will feel less assaulted by images and products
> > and more attentive to the spaces between them. and they will begin to
> > call these undesigned spaces "nature."
> >
> > - Adbusters (www.adbusters.org)
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