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Re: On The Road To Smart Growth: Article: LA Freeway Fix-Up Won't Do

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From: mike wills
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 01:08
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John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote in message news:<3B1D59C2.E477A3DE@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us>...
> mike wills wrote:
> >> The "right of self determination" is a concept that applies ONLY to
> >> individuals.
> > 
> > That is simply not true. Several Eastern European countries were founded on the
> >  principle of national self determination-
> 
> So what?  The Nazi and Communist governments were founded on concepts that
> we all know are total bullshit.  National or community "self determination"
> is total bullshit, too.

i don't understand your reasoning here. if i understand you correctly, then 
you're saying that because the Nazi regime was founded on concepts that are total 
bullshit, therefore any regime founded on 'nationalist' principles of self-
determination is total 'bullshit'. 
this seems to me to be similar to saying that since 2 is a prime number, and 
2 is even therefore all prime numbers are even. 
whether you disagree with its consequences or not, the principle of self-
determination for the nation does exist. 
moreover, it is applied reguarally in the usa's dealings with foreign powers.
by and large, we do not let other countries tell us what to do- we reserve that
right for ourselves. this is a decision made by politicans and diplomats, on 
behalf of the american people i.e national self determination.
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From: mikewill@math.ucsb.edu (mike wills)
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Subject: Re: On The Road To Smart Growth: Article: LA Freeway Fix-Up Won't Do
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