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Article #428Re: On The Road To Smart Growth: Article: LA Freeway Fix-Up Won't Do
From: Loren Petrich
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:25
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:25
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In article <3B181692.6390FB18@reproman.com>, jon winston
<jon@reproman.com> wrote:
> The median price of a home in San Francisco is now well over $400,000.
> That's why (aside from near unanimous opposition) there will never ever
> be a new freeway project there or anywhere in the Bay Area.
> The cost of a right of way for any new project would be prohibitive and
> renders this whole debate moot.
What a bunch of Kulaks! :-)
Although I consider Dave Simpson's and Dan Hagstrom's positions to
be pure emotionalism ("Anyone who does not allow me to drive wherever I
want is a traitorous Kulak!!!"), I do point out that there is a way to
build more freeways without using up surface real estate.
Build the freeways underground, as has been proposed for SF. Some
possibilities:
* Downtown SF to the Golden Gate Bridge area. This tunnel can go
through solid rock because there is a big hill in between, making for
easy and non-disruptive tunneling.
* A freeway underneath Sunset Blvd. It would have a few exchanges, but
not many. It could be constructed in cut-and-cover fashion, creating a
double-decker road.
* Van Ness Ave. could have a tunnel underneath it that connects Market
St. and the waterfront area.
This undergrounding is what is being done for Boston in its Central
Artery "Big Dig" project, and I suspect that SF will have an easier
time of it than Boston has.
--
Loren Petrich
petrich@panix.com
Happiness is a fast Macintosh
And a fast train
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