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Article #431Re: On The Road To Smart Growth: Article: LA Freeway Fix-Up Won't Do
From: Loren Petrich
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 08:46
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 08:46
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In article <3B19F094.B00D94C1@big.top>, William Lynch <bozo.clown@big.top> wrote: > Loren Petrich wrote: > > This undergrounding is what is being done for Boston in its Central > > Artery "Big Dig" project, and I suspect that SF will have an easier > > time of it than Boston has. > I disagree that 'SF would have an easier time of it than Boston has.' > The terrain for tunneling is very similar (either bedrock or very soft > landfill, aka 'liquifaction zones'); Boston's cost is up 75%, and that > would make the bean counters wary of similar black holes; and > construction dollars in general from both Washington and Sacramento > are drying up. I checked on http://www.bigdig.com and most of the Boston tunneling is above the bedrock. A Sunset Blvd. tunnel would have the same problem as most of Boston's Big Dig, but a tunnel between Golden Gate and downtown SF would go through solid rock, which is relatively easy to tunnel through -- there aren't a lot of pipes or foundations built very deep into it, and there is little need to worry about disrupting the surface. Which would be a very real problem with a possible Sunset Tunnel. > Don't get me wrong. I think that it would be wonderful if it happened. > But they are going to say we just rebuilt this bridge and tore down > that highway and besides there are nothing but Democrats in office > there so why should we pay for this latest boondoggle. File this > under wishful thinking. You are probably right there. There have been those who have proposed constructing privately-financed toll tunnels, but such plans have not gone anywhere. -- Loren Petrich petrich@panix.com Happiness is a fast Macintosh And a fast train
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