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Re: On The Road To Smart Growth: Article: LA Freeway Fix-Up Won't

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From: spp
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:13
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John Higdon  <no-spam@RadioMonopoly.com> wrote:

> Don Hagstrom wrote:

>> Cities with freeways through them that do just fine:  Los Angeles,
>> Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Chicago, New
>> York, Boston (under replacement), Atlanta, Miami, San Antonio,.... I
>> could go on and on.

>San Jose has the following freeways that go right through it:

>280 
>680
>(actually, both terminate in San Jose and join together)
>101
>880
>85

85 Doesn't go through San Jose.

> These freeways do not go around the periphery; they go right
> through town. I don't noticed that SJ suffers all that much.

On those ocassions when I have to travel by car from Berkeley
to Santa Cruz, in order to get to an evening event, I find it
incredibly inconvenient that there is no freeway
that totally bypasses San Jose.  880 to 17 is the most direct
route but it is the worst in terms of traffic.  And obviously,
San Jose people commuting locally are not benefitting from
people like me who are just passing through the middle of
downtown San Jose.

The best route is in fact the one that most resembles
a bypass: 280 to 85 to 17.  Unfortunately, 280 is most
easily reached by going through San Francisco...

I consider San Jose an excellent example of why, in general,
you need bypasses, and how the city-center-oriented freeway
system makes traffice much worse.

Steve
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From: spp@cs.berkeley.edu
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Subject: Re: On The Road To Smart Growth: Article: LA Freeway Fix-Up Won't
Date: 28 May 2001 18:13:36 GMT
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