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In article <%8fGe.42$nN3.10974@news.uswest.net>,
 "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:

>      Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to make 
> the city car-free within the near future.
> 
>      Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San Diego are 
> following suit.
> 
>      For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy. 


Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San 
Diego). 

BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel, 
or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?

In article 
<orfairbairn-612439.00090329072005@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
 ORVAL FAIRAIRN <orfairbairn@earthlink.net> wrote:

> In article <%8fGe.42$nN3.10974@news.uswest.net>,
>  "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:
> 
> >      Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to make 
> > the city car-free within the near future.
> > 
> >      Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San Diego 
> >      are 
> > following suit.
> > 
> >      For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy. 
> 
> 
> Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San 
> Diego). 
> 
> BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel, 
> or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?

THe cities of LA, Sacto, Reno, SF and SD are going mayor free within the 
near future!  SD has already done so with excellent results.

ORVAL FAIRAIRN wrote:
> In article <%8fGe.42$nN3.10974@news.uswest.net>,
>  "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>     Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to make 
>>the city car-free within the near future.
>>
>>     Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San Diego are 
>>following suit.
>>
>>     For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy. 
> 
> 
> 
> Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San 
> Diego). 
> 
> BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel, 
> or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?


   Tell me about the SF recall. I live here and missed it.

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In article <6KrGe.2400$kk6.1038@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
 George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:

> ORVAL FAIRAIRN wrote:
> > In article <%8fGe.42$nN3.10974@news.uswest.net>,
> >  "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>     Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to make 
> >>the city car-free within the near future.
> >>
> >>     Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San Diego 
> >>     are 
> >>following suit.
> >>
> >>     For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San 
> > Diego). 
> > 
> > BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel, 
> > or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?
> 
> 
>    Tell me about the SF recall. I live here and missed it.

That is only if "Joel Jolley" is reporting the truth -- even SF would be 
up in arms if the mayor were THAT stupid!

Robert Cote <tsch@adlph.net> wrote:
> 
>  ORVAL FAIRAIRN <orfairbairn@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >  "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:
> >
> > >      Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to make
> > > the city car-free within the near future.
> > >
> > >      Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San Diego
> > >      are
> > > following suit.
> > >
> > >      For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy.
> >
> > Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San
> > Diego).
> >
> > BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel,
> > or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?
> 
> THe cities of LA, Sacto, Reno, SF and SD are going mayor free within the
> near future!  SD has already done so with excellent results.

THe cities of LA, SF and SD are going transit free within the near
future!  Sacto has already done so with excellent results!

Robert Cote wrote:
> 
> In article
> <orfairbairn-612439.00090329072005@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
>  ORVAL FAIRAIRN <orfairbairn@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <%8fGe.42$nN3.10974@news.uswest.net>,
> >  "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:
> >
> > >      Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to make
> > > the city car-free within the near future.
> > >
> > >      Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San Diego
> > >      are
> > > following suit.
> > >
> > >      For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy.
> >
> >
> > Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San
> > Diego).
> >
> > BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel,
> > or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?
> 
> THe cities of LA, Sacto, Reno, SF and SD are going mayor free within the
> near future!  SD has already done so with excellent results.

As I recall the former mayor of San Diego is an EIB certified
professional radio talk show host.

-- 
John in the sand box of Marylands eastern shore.

In article <11en91hau3g2v20@corp.supernews.com>,
 John R Cambron <*cambronj@chesapeake.net*> wrote:

> Robert Cote wrote:
> > 
> > In article
> > <orfairbairn-612439.00090329072005@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
> >  ORVAL FAIRAIRN <orfairbairn@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <%8fGe.42$nN3.10974@news.uswest.net>,
> > >  "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >      Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to 
> > > >      makethe city car-free within the near future.
> > > >
> > > >      Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San 
> > > >      Diego are following suit.
> > > >
> > > >      For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy.
> > >
> > >
> > > Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San
> > > Diego).
> > >
> > > BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel,
> > > or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?
> > 
> > THe cities of LA, Sacto, Reno, SF and SD are going mayor free within the
> > near future!  SD has already done so with excellent results.
> 
> As I recall the former mayor of San Diego is an EIB certified
> professional radio talk show host.

You are confusing two different Mayors.  Roger Hedgecock the now radio 
commentator refers to himself as a recovering lawyer.  The most recent 
mayors need a lawyer.  Dick Murphy's (the original resigning recent 
mayor) replacement was then found guilty of corruption and also 
resigned.  THe funny thing being that Murphy actually received fewer 
votes in the election but managed to get the courts to invalidate 5000 
of his opponents ballots.  All this in a city that was once considered 
one of the nation's best run big cities that is until about the time 
they started building light rail (beyond the original trolley).  
Coincidence?  I think not.

In article <tsch-1D74DD.09442130072005@news.isp.giganews.com>,
 Robert Cote <tsch@adlph.net> wrote:

> All this in a city that was once considered 
> one of the nation's best run big cities that is until about the time 
> they started building light rail (beyond the original trolley).  
> Coincidence?  I think not.

Don't confuse municipal corruption with how well run a city is. Some of 
our best run cities have also been our most corrupt.

Corruption helps get things done <grin>.

Merritt

Robert Cote wrote:
> 
> In article <11en91hau3g2v20@corp.supernews.com>,
>  John R Cambron <*cambronj@chesapeake.net*> wrote:
> 
> > Robert Cote wrote:
> > >
> > > In article
> > > <orfairbairn-612439.00090329072005@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
> > >  ORVAL FAIRAIRN <orfairbairn@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <%8fGe.42$nN3.10974@news.uswest.net>,
> > > >  "Joey Jolley" <johnmunch@qwest.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >      Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles has just launched a campaign to
> > > > >      makethe city car-free within the near future.
> > > > >
> > > > >      Mayors of Las Vegas, Sacramento, Reno, San Francisco, and San
> > > > >      Diego are following suit.
> > > > >
> > > > >      For proof, read the AP article by Tom Molloy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Recall movements for those majors are already underway (except San
> > > > Diego).
> > > >
> > > > BTW, San Diego currently has NO mayor! Don't you read the papers, Joel,
> > > > or do you just read those drivel websites that you constantly quote?
> > >
> > > THe cities of LA, Sacto, Reno, SF and SD are going mayor free within the
> > > near future!  SD has already done so with excellent results.
> >
> > As I recall the former mayor of San Diego is an EIB certified
> > professional radio talk show host.
> 
> You are confusing two different Mayors.  Roger Hedgecock the now radio
> commentator refers to himself as a recovering lawyer.  The most recent
> mayors need a lawyer.  Dick Murphy's (the original resigning recent
> mayor) replacement was then found guilty of corruption and also
> resigned.  THe funny thing being that Murphy actually received fewer
> votes in the election but managed to get the courts to invalidate 5000
> of his opponents ballots.  All this in a city that was once considered
> one of the nation's best run big cities that is until about the time
> they started building light rail (beyond the original trolley).
> Coincidence?  I think not.

I should have better qualified my post by saying. As I recall "one
of" the former mayor"s" of San Diego is an EIB certified professional
radio talk show host. 

-- 
John in the sand box of Marylands eastern shore.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:56:33 GMT, Merritt Mullen
<mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote:

>Don't confuse municipal corruption with how well run a city is. Some of 
>our best run cities have also been our most corrupt.

And then there's Chicago. ;)

In article <ja1qe1953vgcu9b4ngsa9f5ilfk7b5jcai@4ax.com>,
 Scott en Aztl?n <scottenaztlan@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:56:33 GMT, Merritt Mullen
> <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote:
> 
> >Don't confuse municipal corruption with how well run a city is. Some of 
> >our best run cities have also been our most corrupt.
> 
> And then there's Chicago. ;)

Yes -- Chicago would really benefit by going Mayor-free for a about 20 
years. I hope that the Cook County Republicans get the goods on Daley 
and send him to Leavenworth and that he gets Mongo for a cellmate.

In article <orfairbairn-CBA109.16093431072005@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
 ORVAL FAIRAIRN <orfairbairn@earthlink.net> wrote:

> In article <ja1qe1953vgcu9b4ngsa9f5ilfk7b5jcai@4ax.com>,
>  Scott en Aztl?n <scottenaztlan@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:56:33 GMT, Merritt Mullen
> > <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >Don't confuse municipal corruption with how well run a city is. Some of 
> > >our best run cities have also been our most corrupt.
> > 
> > And then there's Chicago. ;)
> 
> Yes -- Chicago would really benefit by going Mayor-free for a about 20 
> years. I hope that the Cook County Republicans get the goods on Daley 
> and send him to Leavenworth and that he gets Mongo for a cellmate.

Is everyone suggesting that Chicago was poorly run under the original 
Mayor Daley?  I have never even visited there (except to change trains or 
airplanes), but I was under the impression Chicago was well run in those 
days.  I admit it depends on your perspective and particular circumstances.

Merritt